Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) A lot of S&W lovers hated the lock on the revolvers for the last 20 yrs! Well it’s gone!!! https://www.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-news/hallelujah-smith-wesson-now-making-three-classic-no-lock-revolvers/ Edited January 16 by Rye Miles #13621 6 5 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 It’s only gone for those 3 “Classics” and a few J frames that haven’t had the lock for a while. I’m glad they’re doing this even though I have never had a problem with a lock activating itself. I have never deleted a lock because the deletion looks as silly as the lock itself. 2 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 @Rye Miles #13621 while we’re on this subject, I am trading a Winchester 94 Carbine and a Mossberg 500 12ga. for a really nice S&W model 66 4” tomorrow. No lock either. 10 Quote
J-BAR #18287 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 13 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: @Rye Miles #13621 while we’re on this subject, I am trading a Winchester 94 Carbine and a Mossberg 500 12ga. for a really nice S&W model 66 4” tomorrow. No lock either. Yes, that IS a really nice 66. Good trade! 1 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: @Rye Miles #13621 while we’re on this subject, I am trading a Winchester 94 Carbine and a Mossberg 500 12ga. for a really nice S&W model 66 4” tomorrow. No lock either. Nice!! Good luck!! 👍🏻 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: It’s only gone for those 3 “Classics” and a few J frames that haven’t had the lock for a while. I’m glad they’re doing this even though I have never had a problem with a lock activating itself. I have never deleted a lock because the deletion looks as silly as the lock itself. The lock never bothered me although I can’t say I liked it and also never used it. I have a Model 19, a model 10 and a 637 with the lock. My 15 and 37 doesn’t. Edited January 16 by Rye Miles #13621 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 33 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: The lock never bothered me although I can’t say I liked it and also never used it. I have a Model 19, a model 10 and a 637 with the lock. My 15 and 37 doesn’t. I had a model 60 Pro. A “J” frame 5 shot .357 Magnum. It weighed 23 ounces and had the lock. I tried making the lock actuate firing the hardest hitting 158 grain .357 Magnum out of it. Several hundred of them. I did succeed in further messing up my wrists and making the barrel tighten throwing off the front sight but the lock never actuated itself. I sent this gun back to S&W 4 times to fix the barrel issue but that darn lock never moved. I dumped that thing after the 4th time it went back and returned. I will never buy another Performance Center gun. I currently have with the lock: 327 Night Guard 8 shot .357 Mag 63-5 8 shot .22LR 25-15 6.5” .45 Colt I currently have these without the lock: 442-1 .38 Spl 36-2 .38 Spl 10-7 C&E 4” .38 Spl 17-3 6” .22LR 19-4 6” .357 Mag I love all my Smith & Wessons 1 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said: I had a model 60 Pro. A “J” frame 5 shot .357 Magnum. It weighed 23 ounces and had the lock. I tried making the lock actuate firing the hardest hitting 158 grain .357 Magnum out of it. Several hundred of them. I did succeed in further messing up my wrists and making the barrel tighten throwing off the front sight but the lock never actuated itself. I sent this gun back to S&W 4 times to fix the barrel issue but that darn lock never moved. I dumped that thing after the 4th time it went back and returned. I will never buy another Performance Center gun. I currently have with the lock: 327 Night Guard 8 shot .357 Mag 63-5 8 shot .22LR 25-15 6.5” .45 Colt I currently have these without the lock: 442-1 .38 Spl 36-2 .38 Spl 10-7 C&E 4” .38 Spl 17-3 6” .22LR 19-4 6” .357 Mag I love all my Smith & Wessons Nice collection! I’m a big Smith fan myself. I’m looking at buying a 686 from a friend. It’s an older one with no lock. We’ll see…….. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Nice collection! I’m a big Smith fan myself. I’m looking at buying a 686 from a friend. It’s an older one with no lock. We’ll see…….. Ooh, I hope you can get it. That would be cool. 1 Quote
DeaconKC Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Great news. It never caused mechanical problems, but just an ugly reminder of the Clintons and the British ownership of S&W that pandered to them. 3 Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Too bad they didn't reintroduce the 19 with a polished blue finish and a 4 inch plain un-ported barrel. I'd probably be inclined to buy one like I had in 1963. 1 Quote
Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I carried my 642 for years but the ILS rankled me so I disabled it. Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 9 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Too bad they didn't reintroduce the 19 with a polished blue finish and a 4 inch plain un-ported barrel. I'd probably be inclined to buy one like I had in 1963. This is a 4" I bought 2 years ago NIB, no porting but just blued not polished blue. It's my favorite revolver. 3 Quote
Alpo Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Wonder if Smith is going to go back to 4 inches? As I understand it, Smith and Wesson (and Ruger also?) went to 4.2 inches because Canadian law outlawed 4 inch revolvers. So they made the barrel slightly longer so they can sell in Canada. But I understand that it's almost impossible to buy a new pistol in Canada anymore. So you suppose they'll quit with that stupid 4.2 and go back to four? There's no sense in making something specifically so it can be sold in Canada when Canada won't let it be sold there anymore. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I wonder how many people that vehemently decried S&W for the locks will now buy one? 3 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: I wonder how many people that vehemently decried S&W for the locks will now buy one? Right? They’ll complain that the prices are too high!🙄 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 46 minutes ago, Alpo said: Wonder if Smith is going to go back to 4 inches? As I understand it, Smith and Wesson (and Ruger also?) went to 4.2 inches because Canadian law outlawed 4 inch revolvers. So they made the barrel slightly longer so they can sell in Canada. But I understand that it's almost impossible to buy a new pistol in Canada anymore. So you suppose they'll quit with that stupid 4.2 and go back to four? There's no sense in making something specifically so it can be sold in Canada when Canada won't let it be sold there anymore. 4.2 doesn’t bother me at all. Maybe with a new PM coming to Canada the gun restrictions will end. Quote
Alpo Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The problem with a 4.2 gun barrel is when you have 4 inch guns, you probably have holsters to fit. And then you get the new gun and it's 4.2 and it's too long to fit your holster. You know that quarter of an inch is nothing, until you're trying to shove it down into a leather pocket. 2 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 34 minutes ago, Alpo said: The problem with a 4.2 gun barrel is when you have 4 inch guns, you probably have holsters to fit. And then you get the new gun and it's 4.2 and it's too long to fit your holster. You know that quarter of an inch is nothing, until you're trying to shove it down into a leather pocket. True but I don’t carry my 19 in a holster. I don’t even have one for it. Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Alpo said: The problem with a 4.2 gun barrel is when you have 4 inch guns, you probably have holsters to fit. And then you get the new gun and it's 4.2 and it's too long to fit your holster. You know that quarter of an inch is nothing, until you're trying to shove it down into a leather pocket. Get a Dremel and grind it to fit. Just yanking your chain. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Picked up my new (to me) model 66-5 I didn’t think I would like the grip, but it fits my hands perfectly. 5 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said: Picked up my new (to me) model 66-5 I didn’t think I would like the grip, but it fits my hands perfectly. That’s a beauty!!! 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: That’s a beauty!!! Thank you. I am really looking forward to shooting it. It’s going to be really cold this week coming up. My range is outdoors so I may just have to tough it out and go. I refuse to go to the indoor range near me. Their ventilation is awful. I can make it cold weather practice and see how my hand loads do in cold weather. 2 Quote
Texas Maverick Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I have my old duty revolver for the 80's in the safe. I haven't shot it in quite awhile now. The police gunsmith bored out the cylinders to accept 357 which is what we all carried back then. TM 5 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 17 Posted January 17 19 minutes ago, Texas Maverick said: I have my old duty revolver for the 80's in the safe. I haven't shot it in quite awhile now. The police gunsmith bored out the cylinders to accept 357 which is what we all carried back then. TM How often did you shoot magnums out of it? That’s a great looking revolver. Quote
Texas Maverick Posted January 17 Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Pat Riot said: How often did you shoot magnums out of it? That’s a great looking revolver. Only during practice and qualifications. Luckily, never had to shoot at anyone. I never had any problems with the 357 loads since the 67 is rated for +p ammo and the 357 loads weren't as hot as they were. TM 1 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I'm a big S & W fan. Glad the hole is gone, at least on some models. After drooling over the pics that you guys have been posting on this thread, I ran across this ad today. No, it's not S & W, not even close. I have been kicking around buying one though. Zastava M83 Revolvers, .357 Magnum, 6 Shot Cylinder, 4" Barrel, Blued Finish, Various Grips. Surplus Good to Very Good Condition Quote
Three Foot Johnson Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I picked up this near pristine pre Model 36 Chief's Special flat latch about three weeks ago to add to the S&W stack. Made in early 1956, $255. 5 Quote
DeaconKC Posted January 18 Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Three Foot Johnson said: I picked up this near pristine pre Model 36 Chief's Special flat latch about three weeks ago to add to the S&W stack. Made in early 1956, $255. 2 classics! Estie or Shaeffer? Quote
Three Foot Johnson Posted January 18 Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, DeaconKC said: 2 classics! Estie or Shaeffer? Next shelf down - Penman 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 18 Posted January 18 9 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: I'm a big S & W fan. Glad the hole is gone, at least on some models. After drooling over the pics that you guys have been posting on this thread, I ran across this ad today. No, it's not S & W, not even close. I have been kicking around buying one though. Zastava M83 Revolvers, .357 Magnum, 6 Shot Cylinder, 4" Barrel, Blued Finish, Various Grips. Surplus Good to Very Good Condition Did you see this video? I would call and talk to someone about hand picking a nice one. I had a hard time getting around the sound of guns being banged together but these guys ended up with some interesting ones in the crate. Quote
Cypress Sun Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said: Did you see this video? I would call and talk to someone about hand picking a nice one. I had a hard time getting around the sound of guns being banged together but these guys ended up with some interesting ones in the crate. Yeah, I was less than impressed with the way the guns were handled, even less so with Mr. Muscle man's dry firing and cylinder slamming during his test firing session. I'm still thinking about it, For less than $450 shipped, kind of makes it hard to pass up though it's a gamble. Wish I could find a S & W M36 for $255 like 3' did, that's a helleva deal there! S & W revolvers in .38spl or .357 are impossible to find locally for under $700 - 750 and those are generally in mediocre condition. I have a feeling that with a new administration in office, firearm prices will come down. Good for the buyer, bad for the retailer with a large inventory. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: I have a feeling that with a new administration in office, firearm prices will come down. Good for the buyer, bad for the retailer with a large inventory. I wouldn’t count on it. Not unless there is a general federal investigation into price gouging and false claims of supply chain issues. 1 Quote
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