Brings back a lot of memories

[Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381]

 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

I don't remember any music or singing....damn little to sing about until we got back the garrison and then was too tired and / or depressed to enjoy most of it.

 

Had a few really good sessions though.  Surprising how many guys had and could play instruments, and almost everyone could sing.

[Pat Riot]

I tend to not listen to or play music that brings up bad memories or bad feelings. 

[Blackwater 53393]

According to John Fogarty, that’s kinda’ an anti-gun song!!

 

I don’t know what his politics are, but he wrote the song in response to a news article about there being so many guns in the USA!

[watab kid]

his politics are what you might guess from that and no there are not too many guns - just too many anti-gun people 

[J.D. Daily]

On 10/22/2024 at 2:31 PM, Blackwater 53393 said:

According to John Fogarty, that’s kinda’ an anti-gun song!!

 

I don’t know what his politics are, but he wrote the song in response to a news article about there being so many guns in the USA!

I was 1 year behind the four guys who at San Jose State change their HS band name from the Blue Velvets to Credence Clearwater Revival.  He didn't hang out with his brother who was in my class.  There was no indication of his political leanings in 1961-1963.  

Several POTUS elections back I attended a John Forgerty concert at the outdoor music venue at Harvey's South Lake Tahoe.  Between songs he did a lot of electioneering for the democrat whomever that was.

He and his band mates became rockstars fairly quickly; therefore,  hand to mouth existence of typical artist wouldn't have formed his democrat leanings.  After he became a solo artist his lifestyle took a hit because CCR's financial manager had been ripping them off or investing in get rick quick schemes.  I don't know if any funds were ever recovered in lawsuits.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

On 10/22/2024 at 5:31 PM, Blackwater 53393 said:

According to John Fogarty, that’s kinda’ an anti-gun song!!

 

I don’t know what his politics are, but he wrote the song in response to a news article about there being so many guns in the USA!

 

I wonder what country he would rather those guns be?

 

..........Widder

 

[Rip Snorter]

Long and interesting back story, many sources.  Check them out. I have.

[Blackwater 53393]

6 minutes ago, J.D. Daily said:

I was 1 year behind the four guys who at San Jose State change their HS band name from the Blue Velvets to Credence Clearwater Revival.  He didn't hang out with his brother who was in my class.  There was no indication of his political leanings in 1961-1963.  

Several POTUS elections back I attended a John Forgerty concert at the outdoor music venue at Harvey's South Lake Tahoe.  Between songs he did a lot of electioneering for the democrat whomever that was.

He and his band mates became rockstars fairly quickly; therefore,  hand to mouth existence of typical artist wouldn't have formed his democrat leanings.  After he became a solo artist his lifestyle took a hit because CCR's financial manager had been ripping them off or investing in get rick quick schemes.  I don't know if any funds were ever recovered in lawsuits.

 

Aside from the politics, at one point, the band was called The Gollywogs!

[Rip Snorter]

2 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

 

Aside from the politics, at one point, the band was called The Gollywogs!

Which they hated. 

[Blackwater 53393]

The band was more than talented and for a while, very successful.  In Europe, they were bigger than the Beatles for a while!!

 

”Artistic Differences” has killed many a band!  The “democracy” thing worked for me and my guys for twenty-five years.  We are on hiatus while some of us work at getting back healthy.

 

Our first rule after we started working was, “You check your egos at the door!” and it worked well enough that even now, we get together at times for a day of food, fun, and friendship.

 

Being a band is some of the best and some of the hardest work you’ll ever love!!

 

 

 

[MizPete]

20 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

Being a band is some of the best and some of the hardest work you’ll ever love!!

I don't doubt it.

Help me with this:  I think we need to put together a "supergroup" of ppl who got too big for their britches.  My current nominees:  John Fogarty, Neil Young, Roger Waters.

Who you got?

[Eyesa Horg]

21 hours ago, Rip Snorter said:

Which they hated. 

The golliwog, also spelled golliwogg or shortened to golly, is a doll-like character, created by cartoonist and author Florence Kate Upton, which appeared in children's books in the late 19th century, usually depicted as a type of rag doll. It was reproduced, both by commercial and hobby toy-makers, as a children's soft toy called the "golliwog", a portmanteau of golly and polliwog,[1][2][3] and had great popularity in the Southern United States, the United Kingdom, South Africa and Australia into the 1970s.

 

 

A golliwog in the form of a child's soft toy

A racist drawing depicting a black rag doll with a big, black head, sitting in a rocking chair, with three white children standing by (As seen in the Beaton household).

Florence Kate Upton's Golliwogg in formal minstrel attire in The Adventures of Two Dutch Dolls and a Golliwogg in 1895

The golliwog is controversial, being widely considered a racist caricature of black people,[4][5] alongside pickaninnies, minstrels, and mammy figures. The doll is characterised by jet black skin, eyes rimmed in white, exaggerated red lips and frizzy hair, based on the blackface minstrel tradition. Since the 20th century, the word "golliwog" has been considered a racial slur towards black people.[6] The Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia described the golliwog as "the least known of the major anti-black caricatures in the United States".[7] Changing political attitudes with regard to race have reduced the popularity and sales of golliwogs as toys. Manufacturers who have used golliwogs as a motif (e.g. Robertson's marmalade in the UK) have either withdrawn them as an icon or changed the name. Alternative names such as golly and golly doll have also been adopted due to association with the racial slur wog, which many dictionaries say may be derived from golliwog.[8][9][10][11]

[Rip Snorter]

Just now, Eyesa Horg said:

The golliwog, also spelled golliwogg or shortened to golly, is a doll-like character, created by cartoonist and author Florence Kate Upton, which appeared in children's books in the late 19th century, usually depicted as a type of rag doll. It was reproduced, both by commercial and hobby toy-makers, as a children's soft toy called the "golliwog", a portmanteau of golly and polliwog,[1][2][3] and had great popularity in the Southern United States, the United Kingdom, South Africa and Australia into the 1970s.

 

 

A golliwog in the form of a child's soft toy

A racist drawing depicting a black rag doll with a big, black head, sitting in a rocking chair, with three white children standing by (As seen in the Beaton household).

Florence Kate Upton's Golliwogg in formal minstrel attire in The Adventures of Two Dutch Dolls and a Golliwogg in 1895

The golliwog is controversial, being widely considered a racist caricature of black people,[4][5] alongside pickaninnies, minstrels, and mammy figures. The doll is characterised by jet black skin, eyes rimmed in white, exaggerated red lips and frizzy hair, based on the blackface minstrel tradition. Since the 20th century, the word "golliwog" has been considered a racial slur towards black people.[6] The Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia described the golliwog as "the least known of the major anti-black caricatures in the United States".[7] Changing political attitudes with regard to race have reduced the popularity and sales of golliwogs as toys. Manufacturers who have used golliwogs as a motif (e.g. Robertson's marmalade in the UK) have either withdrawn them as an icon or changed the name. Alternative names such as golly and golly doll have also been adopted due to association with the racial slur wog, which many dictionaries say may be derived from golliwog.[8][9][10][11]

I knew most of that - I'd suspect a prominent press secretary would have made different choices on appearance if cognizant.

[Eyesa Horg]

7 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said:

I knew most of that - I'd suspect a prominent press secretary would have made different choices on appearance if cognizant.

Back in the 80s I worked with a guy whom collected the dolls. He traveled for vacation to England on occasion and brought them back. Otherwise I'd a had no knowledge of them!

[Rye Miles #13621]

I actually never heard that song, I wasn’t a big fan of CCR so I only knew the big hits they had that we had to play over and over and over in bands I was in!🙄