Melody the same? True or false?

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

is this true?
 

"America," also known as "My Country, 'Tis of Thee," shares its melody with the national anthem of the United Kingdom, "God Save the Queen.” The American lyrics were written in 1831 by Samuel Francis Smith, while "God Save the Queen" was written in the 1700s. The U.K. anthem also changes its title depending on the gender of the monarch.

[Blackwater 53393]

It’s The Truth!!

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Thanks.  I don’t trust every trivia answer I see.  )))

[Subdeacon Joe]

It's not uncommon for different lyrics to be fit to the same music. 

 

To Anacreon In Heaven/ Defense of Ft. McHenry. 

 

Gilligan's Island/Amazing Grace/House of the Rising Sun/Jabberwocky all ca share the same tunes. 

[Tell Sackett SASS 18436]

If I remember correctly the Star Spangled Banner used the tune of an old English drinking song!

[Alpo]

My country's tired of me

Sent me to Germany

To see the king

His name is Donald Duck

He drives a garbage truck

And all he ever says is ****

God, he's obscene

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

If you play the first few bars of "Star Wars", it's "Born Free".

[Blackwater 53393]

Amazing Grace and House of the Rising Sun are not the same tune!  They DO have the same phrasing structure.  We used to play either of them to the tune of the other.

 

We also used to start Folsom Prison Blues and morph it into Pinball Wizard.  Again, same basic phrasing to different tunes.

[Subdeacon Joe]

31 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

Amazing Grace and House of the Rising Sun are not the same tune!  

 

That was an example of how tunes and lyrics can be interchangeable. 

 

Old hymnals had some system at the top of the page showing the rhyme scheme or meter or something so you could swap them around (been close to 50 yesrs since I even glanced at a protestant hymnal so I only vaguely recall it, and don't know the correct musical terminology). 

 

ADDED:

 

Example pages from protestant hymnals 

 

 

 

[Alpo]

20 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

Amazing Grace and House of the Rising Sun are not the same tune!  They DO have the same phrasing structure.  We used to play either of them to the tune of the other.

 

We also used to start Folsom Prison Blues and morph it into Pinball Wizard.  Again, same basic phrasing to different tunes.

There's a stand-up comic. This is on YouTube. His father was a preacher. And Daddy called him up to the pulpit one time to sing Amazing Grace.

 

He sang it to the tune of Gilligan's Island. Daddy boxed his ears, apologized to the congregation, said the boy was going to try again, and told the boy to sing it to the right tune.

 

He sang it to Ghost Riders.

 

Daddy walloped him again, apologized to the congregation again, and told him to do it right this time.

 

Third time he sang it to the tune of House of the Rising Sun.

 

There was a song written back in the late 1800s. I'M A GOOD OLD REBEL. Supposed to have been written by a Confederate officer who did not appreciate reconstruction.

 

Hoyt Axton released it in the '60s. And I had a copy of the lyrics but I had no music. For about a year and a half I would sing it to The Ballad of Jed Clampett.

 

Worked great.

 

You can also sing Car 54 Where Are You to The Ballad of Jed Clampett.

 

The tunes aren't the same, but the words fit. The rhythm works.

 

[Alpo]

In one of the Modesty Blaise books, the organist at the little country church got sick. And Willie was volunteered to take her place, because sometime in the past he had told Modesty that he could play an organ.

 

So he agreed, and he told the preacher that the hymns for that service would be this one this one this one this one and that one.

 

All five hymns had the same tune.

 

After the service MelodyMODESTY asked him why he chose those five hymns. He said he only knew how to play one song.

[Will Kane]

7 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

It's not uncommon for different lyrics to be fit to the same music. 

 

To Anacreon In Heaven/ Defense of Ft. McHenry. 

 

Gilligan's Island/Amazing Grace/House of the Rising Sun/Jabberwocky all ca share the same tunes. 

I’ve Been Working on the Railroad and The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You also share the same melody.

[Rye Miles #13621]

Aura Lee and Love Me Tender are almost exactly the same melody and chord changes!

[Ozark Huckleberry]

 

 

[Blackwater 53393]

“It’s Now Or Never” and “O Sole Mio” are the same tune.

 

If you want to hear something unique, listen to Elvis sing “Now or Never” and then immediately go to Pavoratti’s “O Sole Mio”!!

 

Elvis had the better operatic voice!

[Rye Miles #13621]

3 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

“It’s Now Or Never” and “O Sole Mio” are the same tune.

 

If you want to hear something unique, listen to Elvis sing “Now or Never” and then immediately go to Pavoratti’s “O Sole Mio”!!

 

Elvis had the better operatic voice!

Ha ha I doubt that! Pavarotti was one of the best.!

[Blackwater 53393]

29 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Ha ha I doubt that! Pavarotti was one of the best.!

 

 

I wouldn’t expect anyone to take my statement at face value!!  I didn’t believe it either until one of my music teachers demonstrated it!!

 

Just do it and see/HEAR  for yourself!

 

 

[Rye Miles #13621]

9 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

 

 

I wouldn’t expect anyone to take my statement at face value!!  I didn’t believe it either until one of my music teachers demonstrated it!!

 

Just do it and see/HEAR  for yourself!

 

 

I’ve heard both several times and I just can’t hear it! I’m not putting down Elvis but his operatic voice was nothing compared to Pavarotti at least in my opinion! 

[MizPete]

I'm Always Chasing Rainbows was "borrowed" from a Chopin etude - can't remember which one.

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

Pinkard & Bowden:  Purple Haze and Green Acres theme. Scroll to the 1:30 mark.