Short stroke pistols

[Slow Poke]

1. Who are the gunsmiths that can and will short stroke pistols?

 

2. Has anyone heard of a 1875 Remington clone being short stroked? If so who did it?

 

Thanks 

              Slow poke 

[Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933]

6 minutes ago, slow poke gear said:

1. Who are the gunsmiths that can and will short stroke pistols?

 

2. Has anyone heard of a 1875 Remington clone being short stroked? If so who did it?

 

Thanks 

              Slow poke 

1. What brand?  Lots of people short stroke Rugers.  Colt and clones not so many.

 

2.  No.

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

PLUS ONE for Larsen E.

 

I'd like to add, Short Stroke ain't all it's cracked up to be.  to get the same reliability of ignition with short hammer fall you have to compensate with somewhat heavier springs.

[Warden Callaway]

I have a pair and when the buzzar sounds, I can't tell the difference.  Like CC said,  I had to put stronger hammer springs in them to get them to go bang every time. 

[Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903]

I have Shotgun Boogie short strokes in Ruger Bisleys and they are fantastic for an arthritic old duelist. 
 

Randy

[Slow Poke]

1 hour ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

1. What brand?  Lots of people short stroke Rugers.  Colt and clones not so many.

 

2.  No.

Rugers 

My 75s are uberti

[Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903]

3 minutes ago, slow poke gear said:

Rugers 

My 75s are uberti

I would check with Shotgun Boogie, Sgt. Eli, Boomstick Jay and 3 Cut. If anyone does them there’s a good chance one of them does. 
 

Randy

[KingSnake]

Shotgun Boogie Gun Works short strokes in our NMV’s.  One of the things I like most about Shotgun Boogie’s parts for firearms is NO welding required. 

[Blackwater 53393]

 

He also lowered and widened the hammer spurs and slicked ‘em up!

 

I’m happy with ‘em.  
 

 

Here’s a picture of them in action the day before I gave ‘em to Boomstick to have them short stroked and the hammer spurs done,FCGF style!!  
 

I love ‘em!!

 

 

 
Here’s one after the work was completed.

 

 

Here are some more showing the difference in stroke.  It doesn’t seem like much, but my old busted up hands can tell the difference!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jackaroo, # 29989]

6 hours ago, slow poke gear said:

1. Who are the gunsmiths that can and will short stroke pistols?

 

2. Has anyone heard of a 1875 Remington clone being short stroked? If so who did it?

 

Thanks 

              Slow poke 

SPG, I short stroke Rugers and I have never found that I had to put stronger springs in unless you're using a hard primer. Federal or even Winchester work just fine with mine and in fact I usually replace the hammer spring with an even lighter one. Just need to get the spring length right.

In fact I have a pair of consecutive number NMVs Rugers for sale right now on the wire and are in fact a bargain I think.

Considering that a Boogie SS kit will cost you in the region of $500.00 when I last looked, in addition to the gun itself, these are great buy.

[Silver Creek Jack]

27 minutes ago, Jackaroo, # 29989 said:

SPG, I short stroke Rugers and I have never found that I had to put stronger springs in unless you're using a hard primer. Federal or even Winchester work just fine with mine and in fact I usually replace the hammer spring with an even lighter one. Just need to get the spring length right.

In fact I have a pair of consecutive number NMVs Rugers for sale right now on the wire and are in fact a bargain I think.

Considering that a Boogie SS kit will cost you in the region of $500.00 when I last looked, in addition to the gun itself, these are great buy.

What Jackaroo said, I’ve experienced the same with my R.Vaquero’s, no way would I ever go back to stock hammers and no short stroke set up. My pistols were expertly done by Roy’s Creek Creek Dan, hex barrels and brass sights by Snake Oil George.

[Jackaroo, # 29989]

1 hour ago, Silver Creek Jack said:

What Jackaroo said, I’ve experienced the same with my R.Vaquero’s, no way would I ever go back to stock hammers and no short stroke set up. My pistols were expertly done by Roy’s Creek Creek Dan, hex barrels and brass sights by Snake Oil George.

Yep, when we lived in OK RCD looked after all our guns, he is really good, and I had the octagonal barrels put on mine also by that Snake Oil sales man too.

They were excellent, were sold  to a cowboy in CA I think.

[Jackaroo, # 29989]

BTT

[Slow Poke]

On 6/11/2024 at 9:01 PM, Jackaroo, # 29989 said:

SPG, I short stroke Rugers and I have never found that I had to put stronger springs in unless you're using a hard primer. Federal or even Winchester work just fine with mine and in fact I usually replace the hammer spring with an even lighter one. Just need to get the spring length right.

In fact I have a pair of consecutive number NMVs Rugers for sale right now on the wire and are in fact a bargain I think.

Considering that a Boogie SS kit will cost you in the region of $500.00 when I last looked, in addition to the gun itself, these are great buy.

I appreciate the post but 38s won't work for me as I shoot classic.

Thanks though

[Texas Jack Black]

 What is the distance saved ? 1/8 " 

 could this be all feel good placebo effect with these short stroked revolvers?

 

 I find moving a bit faster and practicing transitions works much better in saving time.

 

Best Wishes

[Blackwater 53393]

9 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

 What is the distance saved ? 1/8 " 

 could this be all feel good placebo effect with these short stroked revolvers?

 

 I find moving a bit faster and practicing transitions works much better in saving time.

 

Best Wishes

If doing this makes it more comfortable to shoot the guns, (my right hand doesn’t give out halfway through a match) and that lets you keep shooting, it isn’t a placebo!!

 

I still occasionally enjoy shooting Gunfighter or Double Duelist.  I find it much less painful with the shorter stroke and the lowered hammer spur!!

 

The difference in the distance through the arc  with the shorter stroke AND the lowered spur is greater than you might think!

 

If your range of motion is reduced, that little difference can be much less painful!

 

 

[Texas Jack Black]

2 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

If doing this makes it more comfortable to shoot the guns, (my right hand doesn’t give out halfway through a match) and that lets you keep shooting, it isn’t a placebo!!

 

I still occasionally enjoy shooting Gunfighter or Double Duelist.  I find it much less painful with the shorter stroke and the lowered hammer spur!!

 

The difference in the distance through the arc  with the shorter stroke AND the lowered spur is greater than you might think!

 

If your range of motion is reduced, that little difference can be much less painful!

 

 

 How much distance is saved?

[Blackwater 53393]

37 minutes ago, Texas Jack Black said:

 How much distance is saved?

Well…

 

The stroke is shorter by an eighth of an inch and the hammer spur is lower by nearly a quarter of an inch.  I haven’t measured the difference in radius of the arc and I’d have to go drag the pistols in the picture back out of the safe to do so. 
 

I’m watching a race right now and enjoying a nice snack.  I just don’t have the inclination to go do that at the moment.  Perhaps tomorrow if anyone is genuinely interested!

 

I CAN tell you from experience that the difference, with my eyes closed, is significant!

 

 

 

[Jackaroo, # 29989]

6 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

 How much distance is saved?

approx 7/16" of an inch !

[Silver Creek Jack]

14 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

If doing this makes it more comfortable to shoot the guns, (my right hand doesn’t give out halfway through a match) and that lets you keep shooting, it isn’t a placebo!!

 

I still occasionally enjoy shooting Gunfighter or Double Duelist.  I find it much less painful with the shorter stroke and the lowered hammer spur!!

 

The difference in the distance through the arc  with the shorter stroke AND the lowered spur is greater than you might think!

 

If your range of motion is reduced, that little difference can be much less painful!

 

 

Amen brother!

[Texas Jack Black]

18 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

Well…

 

The stroke is shorter by an eighth of an inch and the hammer spur is lower by nearly a quarter of an inch.  I haven’t measured the difference in radius of the arc and I’d have to go drag the pistols in the picture back out of the safe to do so. 
 

I’m watching a race right now and enjoying a nice snack.  I just don’t have the inclination to go do that at the moment.  Perhaps tomorrow if anyone is genuinely interested!

 

I CAN tell you from experience that the difference, with my eyes closed, is significant!

 

 

 

Thank you

[Warden Callaway]

Sometime back I made a study comparing the standard Colt SAA hammer with a Pietta short stroke hammer.  For what it's worth.

 

 

[Tennessee williams]

I'm wondering who does the shortest stroke on new model vaqueros. 

 

It's yall's fault for all the interesting reading in this thread.

[Leroy Luck]

6 hours ago, Tennessee williams said:

 

I'm wondering who does the shortest stroke on new model vaqueros. 

 

I’ve been told that Roys Creek Dan short strokes are the shortest. From my understanding he has done 2 different short stoke setups. One of them he no longer does. 

 

I’ve got a pair of RCD pistols (with the setup he no longer does) I shoot with and a pair of Boomstick pistols that the wife shoots. I can compare them this afternoon and get pictures. 
 

I’m unfamiliar with anybody else’s short stroke jobs. 

[Hawkeye Kid]

Distance measured as discussed in Callaway’s video.

Jimmy Spurs - 1.280

Boogie- 1.120

Boomstick Jay- 1.171

[Leroy Luck]

I’ve measured a hair bit different but I believe it to be the same measurement as the video.

 

I measured the same area (face of sight notch area to the top hammer edge) but used the inside caliper pieces because it was easier to use. 
 

Boomstick- 1.179”

RCD- 1.125-1.13” (variance on my part because the hammer has a rounded top edge)