Subdeacon Joe Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 Found on FB "A group of friends, some in Union military uniform, with one pointing a revolver, pose for the camera, 1860s."
Long Fingers, SASS#56813 Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 What’s with the hand on one guys knee and the two guys holding hands?
Alpo Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, Long Fingers, SASS#56813 said: What’s with the hand on one guys knee and the two guys holding hands? They're Yankees.
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 14, 2024 Author Posted April 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, Long Fingers, SASS#56813 said: What’s with the hand on one guys knee and the two guys holding hands? Just friends. It wasn't until recently that our society developed its aversion to men displaying affection for one another. Still common in some cultures. To the question in the OP, I thought it was a Starr, but wasn't quite sure.
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 2 hours ago, Long Fingers, SASS#56813 said: What’s with the hand on one guys knee and the two guys holding hands? 2 hours ago, Alpo said: They're Yankees. Yankee Sailors. And yep, it's a Starr. The pic seems reversed, though.
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 You do a double take the first time you see wholly masculine men in Italy who are old friends, walking down the street hand in hand. And if you look at personal correspondence between friends in the 19th century you may be surprised at the expressions of emotion and affection. Only in our unfortunate time do folks now tend to read a sexual aspect into it, which in fact was completely absent.
Alpo Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 42 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: The pic sem reversed, though. It's a tin type. They are all reversed. That's why for years people thought Billy the kid was left-handed - the one absolutely known photo of him is a tin type. I would be more concerned with the fact that they're all wearing rouge than that a couple of them are holding hands.
Duffield, SASS #23454 Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 10 minutes ago, Alpo said: I would be more concerned with the fact that they're all wearing rouge than that a couple of them are holding hands. Pictures were a really big deal in those days. They would be made up to look like the picture of health, thus the rouge for rosy cheeks. The gun was probably a prop provided by the photographer.
Sundog Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Long Fingers, SASS#56813 said: What’s with the hand on one guys knee and the two guys holding hands? The guy with the hand on the knee was forced to do so by the other guy holding a gun to his head.
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 15, 2024 Author Posted April 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: You do a double take the first time you see wholly masculine men in Italy who are old friends, walking down the street hand in hand. And if you look at personal correspondence between friends in the 19th century you may be surprised at the expressions of emotion and affection. Only in our unfortunate time do folks now tend to read a sexual aspect into it, which in fact was completely absent. Well said, sir.
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 15, 2024 Author Posted April 15, 2024 Sitting on knees, arm around another guy, etc. As Red commented, only in our unfortunate times in our society is a man showing affection for another man looked at as only sexual.
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Alpo said: I would be more concerned with the fact that they're all wearing rouge than that a couple of them are holding hands. They’re not wearing rouge. That was added to the image after processing. Color tinting was an optional extra offered by photographers back then to make the B&W image more “lifelike”.
Pat Riot Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Yankee Sailors. And yep, it's a Starr. The pic seems reversed, though. Definitely not Sailors. Probably Soldiers or Marines. 2 hours ago, Alpo said: I would be more concerned with the fact that they're all wearing rouge than that a couple of them are holding hands. Ah! That settles it. Definitely Marines. Sailors don’t look to get photos taken on liberty. They’re were the booze and the girls are…not wearing rouge and holding hands with their foxhole sweethearts.
Alpo Posted April 15, 2024 Posted April 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: They’re not wearing rouge. That was added to the image after processing. Color tinting was an optional extra offered by photographers back then to make the B&W image more “lifelike”. I'm aware of that. I was making a funny.
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