Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 This may be very obvious to many but it's a mystery to me. Why do some outdoor ranges not allow steel core or magnetic reactive ammo to be used. A couple of years ago I was with my son and grandsons at an outdoor range in N.C. and I had brought several pistols , an M1 Garand and an Springfield Armory M1A. A range officer took out a magnet and tested my ammo and found the 30-06 was reactive to the magnet. He then, very courteously and even apologetically informed me the 30-06 was not allowed. We fired everything else and had a very good time. I never questioned the ruling but it's left me kinda perplexed. All my 30-06 ammo comes from the CMP and I have fired hundreds of rounds through my M1 Garand in ranges all over Florida with no problem. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) I don't understand why steel core would not, but stillSTEEL jacketed could hit a rock and create a spark and start a fire. That is my understanding of why steel jacketed ammunition is not allowed at outdoor ranges. I suppose if they were using a magnet to identify steel jackets, and the magnet reacted to a steel core, they would just ban that also instead of trying to decide which was jacketed and which was internal. Edited March 27 by Alpo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Here in CA, they are trying to ban ammo at the ranges.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 35 minutes ago, bgavin said: Here in CA, they are trying to ban ammo at the ranges.... I'd feel sorry for people who still live in California, but so many that I know personally don't bother to vote, won't write letters to anyone, are not NRA members for whatever reason, probably don't belong to any pro-gun groups, and simply sit around and bitch about the conditions there. I couldn't convince most to change and tired of beating the drum alone and moved out of that once great, but no longer, cess pool. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Steel core can affect target plates and by definition is armor piercing 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 It may be that it could damage their backstop. Could also be that they are being overly cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: It may be that it could damage their backstop. Could also be that they are being overly cautious. Insurance and 'fire hazard' comes into play here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, Texas Joker said: Steel core can affect target plates and by definition is armor piercing Not necessary 18 USC 921(a)(17): (B) The term "armor piercing ammunition" means- (i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile. In both parts A and B, the regulation is applied to the projectile, in other words, the bullet. Also in parts A and B of the definition, the emphasis is on the use of a bullet that involves a handgun. So the difference between ammunition and armor-piercing ammunition is the designed intent. One describes the intent of the round to be used in a handgun while the other focuses on if that bullet could possibly be used in a handgun. All of this came about with the rise in popularity of AR-15 pistols in which you would still use a .223 round, which is what most AR-15 rifles use. An exception has been made by ATF for certain bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1. Steel or magnetic ammo could be a fire hazard. Also, their insurance company may dictate it. 2. Steel target damage, if they have steel targets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 the only amo my outdoor range bans is tracers/incendiary - they set fires , we had a couple decades ago , the rest is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 My new indoor range allows up to, but not including 50 BMG. This includes shotguns and rifles. It is much closer than my old outdoor range, and does cost a bit more each month, which I save on gas. The outdoor range is losing money (salaries, I will bet) so they jacked up the annual membership fee, and the daily range fees, and lost me as a member. Bud Light has paved the way for how to lose money by pissing off customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perro Del Diablo Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 A range I shot at outside Fresno didn't allow because of fire risk. Being ariad area it had happened there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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