Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 A friend of mine recently acquired an 1880s vintage trapdoor Springfield. He has an ample supply of 2f Goex and 300 gr #2 Buffalo bullets from Missouri Bullet with smokeless lube. He plans to pan lube the bullets, but even so, I’m not sure they’ll hold enough BP lube, making a big lube bullet a better choice. He does not want to shoot BP subs. I’m unable to find the recent thread about who’s casting BP bullets these days. Any help is appreciated!
Major Art Tillery Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/45-300gr-fn-pb/
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Use a grease cookie.
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted November 12, 2023 Author Posted November 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Use a grease cookie. Like the ones from Circle Fly? Do they require a card between cookie and powder?
Cholla Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 From 2017: Used in BP rifle loads. Pour melted lube in a pan about 1/8" thick. Let set up, and then use the case mouth as a 'cookie-cutter'. Set bullet over it. You want a fiber wad to separate the lube wad to from powder and the bullet if you shoot paper patched bullets. OLG
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Dallas McBoomboom has started the Dark Side Lead Company
Frontier Lone Rider Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Dave at Slippery Bullets has recently started producing Black Powder Bullets. Local Bullet Company (slipperybullets.com)
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Desperado Cowboy bullets https://cowboybullets.com/
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Desperado Cowboy bullets https://cowboybullets.com/ Rye, I tried these. They are great for pistol, but they don’t carry enough lube for rifle. Possum
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Frontier Lone Rider said: Dave at Slippery Bullets has recently started producing Black Powder Bullets. Local Bullet Company (slipperybullets.com) I need to call him and see if he’s offering a good 38 big lube rifle bullet.
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 said: Rye, I tried these. They are great for pistol, but they don’t carry enough lube for rifle. Possum I never had a problem with my rifle when I shot .44-40 black with these bullets! ! What exactly is the problem?
Sedalia Dave Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 9:32 PM, Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 said: Rye, I tried these. They are great for pistol, but they don’t carry enough lube for rifle. Possum 19 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I never had a problem with my rifle when I shot .44-40 black with these bullets! ! What exactly is the problem? What barrel length??? I have some BP bullets that work great in my rifle with the 20" barrel. However, when shot out of a 24" barrel they run out of lube at about the 21.5" mark. As long as I run a wet patch down the barrel between stages they work as SASS distances.
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: What barrel length??? I have some BP bullets that work great in my rifle with the 20" barrel. However, when shot out of a 24" barrel they run out of lube at about the 21.5" mark. As long as I run a wet patch down the barrel between stages they work as SASS distances. 20” and a 24” never noticed any problems with Desperado bullets.
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 5:34 AM, Rye Miles #13621 said: I never had a problem with my rifle when I shot .44-40 black with these bullets! ! What exactly is the problem? Lube seems fine, just not enough of it. Lots of fouling toward end of barrel. Never had this problem with big lubes. Have to use a bore brush when cleaning to remove it. This is out of a 20” barrel.
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: What barrel length??? I have some BP bullets that work great in my rifle with the 20" barrel. However, when shot out of a 24" barrel they run out of lube at about the 21.5" mark. As long as I run a wet patch down the barrel between stages they work as SASS distances. Dave, I ran a wet bore snake after each stage at LandRun and that kept it from being a problem. But if I’m going to do that, I figure I might as well run un-lubed bullets.
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 said: Dave, I ran a wet bore snake after each stage at LandRun and that kept it from being a problem. But if I’m going to do that, I figure I might as well run un-lubed bullets. If you run a bore snake through after each stage, every 10 rounds, you can pretty much use any bullet. If you want to be able to shoot 5 or six stages at a monthly or a days shooting at a multi day match without cleaning, the big lube bullets or other designs that hold a lot of lube work much better.
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: If you run a bore snake through after each stage, every 10 rounds, you can pretty much use any bullet. If you want to be able to shoot 5 or six stages at a monthly or a days shooting at a multi day match without cleaning, the big lube bullets or other designs that hold a lot of lube work much better. Agree 100%
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