Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 This is the new Space Force song https://www.defensenews.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/09/20/space-force-debuts-its-official-service-song-semper-supra/ Scroll down a little to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Ahem…really? No offense to anyone in our Space Force but that theme sounds like an introduction to an Underdog episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I was expecting something more like the ‘Jetsons’ theme song . . . . We’re the Space Force We fight in space In outer space Way up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 How long has the Space Force been existence? How long were the Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard around before they each had an official song? For that matter how long did it take for the United States to adopt a national anthem? It seems to me that the the new USSF was created to be a laughing stock. Even the words mean practically nothing because the branch hasn't been in existence long enough to have earned anything. Let's all link our arms together and sing our new song. Isn't it neat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Created to focus entirely on an emerging threat, from space. Theoretically outside of the typical interservice rivalry and politics. My fond hope would be that they never go to war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 Trump was the one that officially announced the Space Force, so that was maybe 3-4 yrs ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Trump was the one that officially announced the Space Force, so that was maybe 3-4 yrs ago. 19 Feb 2019, oops that’s when it was announced. Was created 20 Dec 2019. i saw that there is a “space fence” I looked it up to see if it will keep illegal aliens out. No such luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Semper Supra? The official staff car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Do you all realize that China has a Space Force? Trump was being proactive. Some people laugh at it now, but someday it will be a viable branch of the military. Actually, it probably is now. They just keep everything classified and “need to know”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Do you all realize that China has a Space Force? Trump was being proactive. Some people laugh at it now, but someday it will be a viable branch of the military. Actually, it probably is now. They just keep everything classified and “need to know”. Russia created a space force in ‘92, post soviet years. 8000 members in US Space Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Interesting: Air & Space Magazine (used to be Air Force Magazine) wouldn't even let us listen to the song. Just posted the lyrics, It will take a while for the Space Force song to become as familiar as the other service songs. But when we have to defend our rights in space against aggression by other countries, or even private criminals, it will be Space Force troops and equipment doing the job! ^ (Nearest I can come to posting the Space Force emblem.) Semper Supra! And, yes, had it been around fifty-five years ago, I probably would have applied for a branch transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Circa 1947.... Air Force that's not even a thing. What do we need ANOYHER branch for? I mean the Army has all that stuff in the Air Corp now... Yea that worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, Texas Joker said: Circa 1947.... Air Force that's not even a thing. What do we need ANOYHER branch for? I mean the Army has all that stuff in the Air Corp now... Yea that worked out The Air Corp actually changed their designation to the US Army Air Force in June of 1941. A split was already being anticipated. Most other Allied nations had already done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I thingk the main difficulty in acceptance is because of the name. Itcontours up visions of hundreds of science fiction films made over the past yeas since WWII. Some Pentagon think tankers should have been able to come up with a moniker that wouldn’t be quite so controversial. The Star Trek emblem didn’t help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Yep but like Space Force Guardians who were Airmen 2 years ago the Air Corp soldiers were still in The Army. Now they are officially their own branch. I'm holding out for near space fighters and destroyers myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 If I were an 18 year old now I would join the Space Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: If I were an 18 year old now I would join the Space Force. Tell us why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Utah Bob #35998 said: Tell us why. It’s new and I will bet it’s interesting… Of course I thought the Navy would be exciting. Standing watches and being at sea for weeks on end before hitting a liberty port wasn’t all that exciting, but I learned a lot and have many fond memories of my experiences. I do think at this time the Space Force is basically a force without a mission, but I would bet there are interesting projects in the works and I would also bet they are Top Secret and the general public has no clue what is going on with the Space Force now. I am making HUGE assumptions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 And it has that really supra snazzy comic book uniform. How long has the Space Force been in existence? How long were the Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard around before they each had an official song? For that matter how long did it take for the United States to adopt a national anthem? It seems to me that the the new USSF was created to be a laughing stock. Even the words mean practically nothing because the branch hasn't been in existence long enough to have earned anything. Let's all link our arms together and sing our new song. Isn't it neat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: It’s new and I will bet it’s interesting… Of course I thought the Navy would be exciting. Standing watches and being at sea for weeks on end before hitting a liberty port wasn’t all that exciting, but I learned a lot and have many fond memories of my experiences. I do think at this time the Space Force is basically a force without a mission, but I would bet there are interesting projects in the works and I would also bet they are Top Secret and the general public has no clue what is going on with the Space Force now. I am making HUGE assumptions here. I think if you were 18 the opportunities for an interesting job in the Space Force would be limited. It’s a highly technical branch from what I could determine and those with degrees will be in the best positions. No entry level ammo loaders, firemen, or gunners I imagine. A friend of mine from Idaho joined the Navy because he wanted to see the ocean and liked the Cracker Jack uniform. Before he got out of boot camp they changed the uniform to the Bus Driver one. Then he was stationed in the engine room of the USS Constellation. Hardly saw much of the sea. Then when he got pout, they changed back to the Crackerjack uniform. He’s still bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 If you think about it NORAD, or whoever controls the military satellites was the Space Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Subdeacon Joe said: If you think about it NORAD, or whoever controls the military satellites was the Space Force. Yeah. There has been somebody doing the job since ballistic missile defense became a thing. Just too bad they couldn’t come up with a less laughable name. Like Space Warriors or Galaxy Commandos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: I thingk the main difficulty in acceptance is because of the name. Itcontours up visions of hundreds of science fiction films made over the past yeas since WWII. Some Pentagon think tankers should have been able to come up with a moniker that wouldn’t be quite so controversial. The Star Trek emblem didn’t help There's a difference but they are similiar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: There's a difference but they are similiar! Waaaay too similar. What were they thinking? I can’t believe it never came up in discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: And it has that really supra snazzy comic book uniform. How long has the Space Force been in existence? How long were the Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard around before they each had an official song? For that matter how long did it take for the United States to adopt a national anthem? It seems to me that the the new USSF was created to be a laughing stock. Even the words mean practically nothing because the branch hasn't been in existence long enough to have earned anything. Let's all link our arms together and sing our new song. Isn't it neat? Here, you want to know something about what they do? Click the link…or don’t. https://www.spaceforce.mil/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Waaaay too similar. What were they thinking? I can’t believe it never came up in discussions. What would you have suggested instead? Have you compared the Air Force enlisted insignia with the old-time cavalry insignia, versus the more modern Army insignia? The cavalry insignia through sergeant formed a vee. The Army later went to an inverted vee. When the Air Force separated from the Army, they went to the present form that is essentially a vee, but so that it looks like a bird's wings with the star inside the roundel. Right now, the Space Force's main mission is control and defense of our military and civilian satellites out to Geosynchronous Earth Orbit (GEO). That can be, and is done from the ground. The day will come, however, when things will need to be done beyond GEO...to cislunar space and beyond. Then Space Force will undoubtedly operate "out there...thataway"! You and I may not see it, but USSF may become the basis for Star Fleet or whatever it might be called. It will be interesting to see if Space Force remains part of the Air Force, or finally becomes totally separate. Ad Astra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Here, you want to know something about what they do? Click the link…or don’t. https://www.spaceforce.mil/ Interesting, I agree with you Pat if I was younger I would join!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Interesting, I agree with you Pat if I was younger I would join!! Don't guess they'd want 80 year old former Minuteman I Missile Maintenance Officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 In the early 80’s I worked on anti-satellite weapons and other assorted really cool stuff that was part of President Reagan’s “Star Wars” or SDI - Strategic Defense Initiative. A few of those programs were “pie in the sky” but the US learned a lot from those projects. I can only imagine what is out there now 40 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Waaaay too similar. What were they thinking? I can’t believe it never came up in discussions. "Ah, nobody will notice!" 12 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said: What would you have suggested instead? Something that doesn't look like a Star Trek communicator. Possibly a stylized Earth with a couple of satellites. Maybe with a motto of sumus semper vigilantem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said: What would you have suggested instead? Have you compared the Air Force enlisted insignia with the old-time cavalry insignia, versus the more modern Army insignia? The cavalry insignia through sergeant formed a vee. The Army later went to an inverted vee. When the Air Force separated from the Army, they went to the present form that is essentially a vee, but so that it looks like a bird's wings with the star inside the roundel. Right now, the Space Force's main mission is control and defense of our military and civilian satellites out to Geosynchronous Earth Orbit (GEO). That can be, and is done from the ground. The day will come, however, when things will need to be done beyond GEO...to cislunar space and beyond. Then Space Force will undoubtedly operate "out there...thataway"! You and I may not see it, but USSF may become the basis for Star Fleet or whatever it might be called. It will be interesting to see if Space Force remains part of the Air Force, or finally becomes totally separate. Ad Astra! I not sure what you mean by old time cavalry insignia. It has always been crossed sabers. I guess you mean rank chevrons which were changed about 1905 I believe. Prior to that they were British/European type. And make no mistake. I am not anti Space Force. I just think the government made a foolish mistake. The optics have generated too much ridicule for an agency that has an important function and will look no doubt be even more important in the future. Did they think that the public would fall in love with a logo that appeared to be a derivative from a beloved TV show? And now they have a theme song. I would be happy if they just quietly went to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 And this sure isn’t helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: And this sure isn’t helping. No. It was a leftist slap in Trump’s face. My wife wanted to watch it. We watched the first season. I will not watch any more. As a matter of fact we are canceling NitwitFlix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: i saw that there is a “space fence” I looked it up to see if it will keep illegal aliens out. No such luck. The space fence has been around for a long time. It's so old it became obsolete, and has now been completely rebuilt. Warfighting in space is nothing new, it just has its own service now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: The space fence has been around for a long time. It's so old it became obsolete, and has now been completely rebuilt. Warfighting in space is nothing new, it just has its own service now. Hopefully there won’t be a war to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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