Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 In the old west and in B western movies I will be at least one hat got knocked off or the wind blew off at hat. Get serious folks. I WAS REPLYING TO BJT'S COMMENT ABOUT WEARING HIS HAT AS A CODPIECE. If you want to quote someone, don't take it out of context to make them look like a...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hmmmm. I don't think there's a requirement to wear spurs On Your Boots. B Western: "Western spurs with rowels are required for men" You coulda hung em on your belt. That would show the jerk. Darlin' Bobby, Yes there is a rule about wearing spurs on boots as there is for wearing a hat on your head or attached to a wild rag around your neck. That is what I was referring to when I remarked about BJT's wearing his hat as a codpiece. The following is from P. 3 of the SHB, "ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television." I still think MT's TO was a hard ass; but, I do not think wearing spurs on one's belt is an appropriate response. He should have either got a rope, taken the issue to the MD for arbitration, or changed categories. I also think any RO giving a P for a hat blowing off should have his ... cut off. Regards, Allie Mo
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I also think any RO giving a P for a hat blowing off should have his ... cut off. Regards, Allie Mo OUCH! What do we cut off ifn its an ROette? ..........Widder
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Darlin' Bobby, Yes there is a rule about wearing spurs on boots as there is for wearing a hat on your head or attached to a wild rag around your neck. That is what I was referring to when I remarked about BJT's wearing his hat as a codpiece. The following is from P. 3 of the SHB, "ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television." I still think MT's TO was a hard ass; but, I do not think wearing spurs on one's belt is an appropriate response. He should have either got a rope, taken the issue to the MD for arbitration, or changed categories. I also think any RO giving a P for a hat blowing off should have his ... cut off. Regards, Allie Mo Sure and it's a violent girl ya are!
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 The rule that all clothing and accoutrements be worn appropriately was put in place out of necessity. Some ole boy was wearing his spurs on his elbows. At that time there was no rule against it. Because of fools like him we get more and more rules spelling out just what idjits can do and can not do. So no, UB no spurs in the belt.
Blackcat James SASS# 29509 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Slick, I have to agree this was a no call, you did nothing to gain an advantage and should not have gotten a P for your hat falling off. Of course some people like to quote rules just to because thats the way they are,they really don't understand the rules. Been seeing alot of this lately.
Irish Red OToole, #48939 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hmmmmm......two pages to discuss an obvious no-brainer call about a hat falling off. No one I know would give a "P" if a hat fell off or was knocked off or blew off in a high wind. That is so obvious as to actually hurt the head thinking about. Anyone that would give out a "P" for such an occurrence is not only the poster child for "hard ass TO", but would also qualify in the "jackass" catagory as well. If I was posse leader and such a call was made, I'd relieve that individual of any further TO duties on my posse permanently and irrevocably. I think unloading table officer would be right up their ally, though. Not much responsibility and can't get in the way too much..... Jeeze!!! IR (2 pages on such a stupid idea!!) OT
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 But I thought we were on page 3, IR!!! :D
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Bottom line -- politely challenge the call to the match director. If the match director upholds the call, then finish out the match and vote with your feet. I wouldn't care to shoot at a match where people have this type of attitude.
johny two horse Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 You are shooting B western and your hat comes off.... I have seen lots of B western movies where a hat blew off so, just like in the movie,,,,,, no problem
johny two horse Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 You are shooting B western and your hat comes off.... I have seen lots of B western movies where a hat blew off so, just like in the movie,,,,,, no problem opps now there are two
Painted Filly Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I talked to PaleWolf Brunelle about this yesterday at Winter Range and he says that it is a NO CALL. The shooter started the stage with the hat on and it came off during the satge. Happens all the time with wind and such. Painted Filly
Danite SASS #27034 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Only an idiot would give a P for that. I don't think that idiot is inappropriate here. I can think of some good adjectives that could be included but idiot is appropriate. Or moron, lunatic, jerk, cretin, etc. etc.
DOCBRAZOS, SASS#18033L Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Just a short note on Tombstons hat Trick....... Now thats FUNNY..........
Shooting Bull Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I talked to PaleWolf Brunelle about this yesterday at Winter Range and he says that it is a NO CALL. The shooter started the stage with the hat on and it came off during the satge. Happens all the time with wind and such. Painted Filly Please tell me he rolled his eyes at the rediculousness of the question when you asked him.
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks for letting us know Filly.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Please tell me he rolled his eyes at the rediculousness of the question when you asked him. He is a gentleman and would not do that.
Concho Billy Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I have observed many hats blowing off here in Texas in the spring.......never heard of a P being given.....if'n you start with a hat and have full intent to wear your hat, then giving a P is sort of silly.
Painted Filly Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Well he did not roll his eyes but I think he was holding back, could not believe someone actually made that call. Painted Filly
Diamond Fred SASS Life 20364 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Strangely, no one has considered that when your hat blows, falls, gets knocked off or what ever, there is a LARGE SAFETY consideration in trying to grab or pick up the hat during the course of fire. Attempting to pick the hat should not be attempted, the same as the "dropped ammo" rule and its "reason".
Madd Mike #8595 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Please tell me he rolled his eyes at the rediculousness of the question when you asked him. naw he fell to the ground laughing
Black Diamond Doug Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 It should be a no call. But, IF they insist your hat must NEVER leave your head, I suggest either a staple gun or duct tape, perhaps even Gorilla glue ( with adequate drying time of course ) be used to secure it firmly to your head, before proceeding to the loading table.
Tricky Trina, SASS #59582L Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 ROTFLHAO? Now THAT'S funny! Is the duct tape an external mod or period incorrect - just trying to avoid another "P" -
Complicated Lady Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Strangely, no one has considered that when your hat blows, falls, gets knocked off or what ever, there is a LARGE SAFETY consideration in trying to grab or pick up the hat during the course of fire. Attempting to pick the hat should not be attempted, the same as the "dropped ammo" rule and its "reason". Yes Sir I did....back on page one "I wouldn't want to shoot at a club that gave a P because someone's hat fell off while he was shooting. What's he suppose to do stop and bend down to get the hat? That might end up being unsafe...." My first thought when I read the OP was that it would be a bad idea to try to pick up the hat.
Blackwater 53393 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I'm with IROT!! I can't beleive this has made a third page. And yet they deleted the DRIVEL thread in the saloon? REALLY!!
Matthew Duncan Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Bottom line -- politely challenge the call to the match director. If the match director upholds the call, then finish out the match and vote with your feet. I wouldn't care to shoot at a match where people have this type of attitude. But then you'd miss the opportunity to have some fun! My hat "falls" off. They give me a "P" Next stage I would manage to have my hat "fall" of again nother "P"... I would see how many stages or how many matches it would take before they got tired of me "loosing" my hat and they stop "P"ing on me.
Shooting Bull Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I'm with IROT!! I can't beleive this has made a third page. And yet they deleted the DRIVEL thread in the saloon? REALLY!! One person's drivel is another person's pee.
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 But then you'd miss the opportunity to have some fun! My hat "falls" off. They give me a "P" Next stage I would manage to have my hat "fall" of agian nother "P"... I would see how many stages or how many matches it would take before they got tired of me "loosing" my hat and they stop "P"ing on me in. Hi Darlin', I know you're "funnin'!" I just want to set the record straight on CC and BW costume penalties when there is a failure to wear a required piece of clothing. The shooter would be advised to change categories or would earn a progressive penalty, which is a P on the first stage, SDQ on the second stage, and MDQ on the third stage. I hope most people will realize this would not be appropriate for the wind taking someone's hat. Regards, Allie Mo PS See the ROI Glossary for Progressive Penalty definition and the Pocket RO Card for examples, which includes "Not wearing the correct items in Classic Cowboy..."
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