Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,980 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 In the old west and in B western movies I will be at least one hat got knocked off or the wind blew off at hat. Get serious folks. I WAS REPLYING TO BJT'S COMMENT ABOUT WEARING HIS HAT AS A CODPIECE. If you want to quote someone, don't take it out of context to make them look like a... Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,980 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hmmmm. I don't think there's a requirement to wear spurs On Your Boots. B Western: "Western spurs with rowels are required for men" You coulda hung em on your belt. That would show the jerk. Darlin' Bobby, Yes there is a rule about wearing spurs on boots as there is for wearing a hat on your head or attached to a wild rag around your neck. That is what I was referring to when I remarked about BJT's wearing his hat as a codpiece. The following is from P. 3 of the SHB, "ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television." I still think MT's TO was a hard ass; but, I do not think wearing spurs on one's belt is an appropriate response. He should have either got a rope, taken the issue to the MD for arbitration, or changed categories. I also think any RO giving a P for a hat blowing off should have his ... cut off. Regards, Allie Mo Link to post Share on other sites
Widder, SASS #59054 7,861 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I also think any RO giving a P for a hat blowing off should have his ... cut off. Regards, Allie Mo OUCH! What do we cut off ifn its an ROette? ..........Widder Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 16,337 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Darlin' Bobby, Yes there is a rule about wearing spurs on boots as there is for wearing a hat on your head or attached to a wild rag around your neck. That is what I was referring to when I remarked about BJT's wearing his hat as a codpiece. The following is from P. 3 of the SHB, "ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television." I still think MT's TO was a hard ass; but, I do not think wearing spurs on one's belt is an appropriate response. He should have either got a rope, taken the issue to the MD for arbitration, or changed categories. I also think any RO giving a P for a hat blowing off should have his ... cut off. Regards, Allie Mo Sure and it's a violent girl ya are! Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 29 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 The rule that all clothing and accoutrements be worn appropriately was put in place out of necessity. Some ole boy was wearing his spurs on his elbows. At that time there was no rule against it. Because of fools like him we get more and more rules spelling out just what idjits can do and can not do. So no, UB no spurs in the belt. Link to post Share on other sites
Blackcat James SASS# 29509 0 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Slick, I have to agree this was a no call, you did nothing to gain an advantage and should not have gotten a P for your hat falling off. Of course some people like to quote rules just to because thats the way they are,they really don't understand the rules. Been seeing alot of this lately. Link to post Share on other sites
Irish Red OToole, #48939 0 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hmmmmm......two pages to discuss an obvious no-brainer call about a hat falling off. No one I know would give a "P" if a hat fell off or was knocked off or blew off in a high wind. That is so obvious as to actually hurt the head thinking about. Anyone that would give out a "P" for such an occurrence is not only the poster child for "hard ass TO", but would also qualify in the "jackass" catagory as well. If I was posse leader and such a call was made, I'd relieve that individual of any further TO duties on my posse permanently and irrevocably. I think unloading table officer would be right up their ally, though. Not much responsibility and can't get in the way too much..... Jeeze!!! IR (2 pages on such a stupid idea!!) OT Link to post Share on other sites
Marauder SASS #13056 1,093 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 But I thought we were on page 3, IR!!! :D Link to post Share on other sites
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 1,030 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Bottom line -- politely challenge the call to the match director. If the match director upholds the call, then finish out the match and vote with your feet. I wouldn't care to shoot at a match where people have this type of attitude. Link to post Share on other sites
johny two horse 0 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 You are shooting B western and your hat comes off.... I have seen lots of B western movies where a hat blew off so, just like in the movie,,,,,, no problem Link to post Share on other sites
johny two horse 0 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 You are shooting B western and your hat comes off.... I have seen lots of B western movies where a hat blew off so, just like in the movie,,,,,, no problem opps now there are two Link to post Share on other sites
Painted Filly 3 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I talked to PaleWolf Brunelle about this yesterday at Winter Range and he says that it is a NO CALL. The shooter started the stage with the hat on and it came off during the satge. Happens all the time with wind and such. Painted Filly Link to post Share on other sites
Danite SASS #27034 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Only an idiot would give a P for that. I don't think that idiot is inappropriate here. I can think of some good adjectives that could be included but idiot is appropriate. Or moron, lunatic, jerk, cretin, etc. etc. Link to post Share on other sites
DOCBRAZOS, SASS#18033L 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Just a short note on Tombstons hat Trick....... Now thats FUNNY.......... Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 2,019 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I talked to PaleWolf Brunelle about this yesterday at Winter Range and he says that it is a NO CALL. The shooter started the stage with the hat on and it came off during the satge. Happens all the time with wind and such. Painted Filly Please tell me he rolled his eyes at the rediculousness of the question when you asked him. Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,980 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks for letting us know Filly. Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 16,337 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Please tell me he rolled his eyes at the rediculousness of the question when you asked him. He is a gentleman and would not do that. Link to post Share on other sites
Concho Billy 1 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I have observed many hats blowing off here in Texas in the spring.......never heard of a P being given.....if'n you start with a hat and have full intent to wear your hat, then giving a P is sort of silly. Link to post Share on other sites
Painted Filly 3 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well he did not roll his eyes but I think he was holding back, could not believe someone actually made that call. Painted Filly Link to post Share on other sites
Diamond Fred SASS Life 20364 0 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Strangely, no one has considered that when your hat blows, falls, gets knocked off or what ever, there is a LARGE SAFETY consideration in trying to grab or pick up the hat during the course of fire. Attempting to pick the hat should not be attempted, the same as the "dropped ammo" rule and its "reason". Link to post Share on other sites
Madd Mike #8595 2 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Please tell me he rolled his eyes at the rediculousness of the question when you asked him. naw he fell to the ground laughing Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,980 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 ROTFLHAO? Link to post Share on other sites
Black Diamond Doug 0 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 It should be a no call. But, IF they insist your hat must NEVER leave your head, I suggest either a staple gun or duct tape, perhaps even Gorilla glue ( with adequate drying time of course ) be used to secure it firmly to your head, before proceeding to the loading table. Link to post Share on other sites
Tricky Trina, SASS #59582L 0 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 ROTFLHAO? Now THAT'S funny! Is the duct tape an external mod or period incorrect - just trying to avoid another "P" - Link to post Share on other sites
Complicated Lady 31 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Strangely, no one has considered that when your hat blows, falls, gets knocked off or what ever, there is a LARGE SAFETY consideration in trying to grab or pick up the hat during the course of fire. Attempting to pick the hat should not be attempted, the same as the "dropped ammo" rule and its "reason". Yes Sir I did....back on page one "I wouldn't want to shoot at a club that gave a P because someone's hat fell off while he was shooting. What's he suppose to do stop and bend down to get the hat? That might end up being unsafe...." My first thought when I read the OP was that it would be a bad idea to try to pick up the hat. Link to post Share on other sites
Blackwater 53393 6,012 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I'm with IROT!! I can't beleive this has made a third page. And yet they deleted the DRIVEL thread in the saloon? REALLY!! Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Duncan 1,541 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Bottom line -- politely challenge the call to the match director. If the match director upholds the call, then finish out the match and vote with your feet. I wouldn't care to shoot at a match where people have this type of attitude. But then you'd miss the opportunity to have some fun! My hat "falls" off. They give me a "P" Next stage I would manage to have my hat "fall" of again nother "P"... I would see how many stages or how many matches it would take before they got tired of me "loosing" my hat and they stop "P"ing on me. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 2,019 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I'm with IROT!! I can't beleive this has made a third page. And yet they deleted the DRIVEL thread in the saloon? REALLY!! One person's drivel is another person's pee. Link to post Share on other sites
Sebec Ranger 0 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 NO CALL Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,980 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 But then you'd miss the opportunity to have some fun! My hat "falls" off. They give me a "P" Next stage I would manage to have my hat "fall" of agian nother "P"... I would see how many stages or how many matches it would take before they got tired of me "loosing" my hat and they stop "P"ing on me in. Hi Darlin', I know you're "funnin'!" I just want to set the record straight on CC and BW costume penalties when there is a failure to wear a required piece of clothing. The shooter would be advised to change categories or would earn a progressive penalty, which is a P on the first stage, SDQ on the second stage, and MDQ on the third stage. I hope most people will realize this would not be appropriate for the wind taking someone's hat. Regards, Allie Mo PS See the ROI Glossary for Progressive Penalty definition and the Pocket RO Card for examples, which includes "Not wearing the correct items in Classic Cowboy..." Link to post Share on other sites
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