Griff Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I have apparently worn-out my TTN hammered coachgun. Been in the shop for several months and I just got word that it seemingly can't be fixed. Whether because of parts or what, I didn't inquire. But, at the last several matches I shot at, it would open to nearly 90 degrees. It didn't come apart, nor did it affect lockup or shooting, but it's become a hand full to control during emptying & reloading operations. The 26" barrelled version is still working as it initially did, but, I prefer the shorter bbls for main match duty. I've had to resort back to my Stoeger Coach gun I bought back in 1/1986. The TTN was bought in 4/2014, not a good comment on its longevity, IMO. On-line shopping only provides limited information. So, I've got a few questions. Does the new Cimarron 1878 have the close-set hammers like the TTN? Are there other worthy options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Look over the CZ hammered coach gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choctaw Jack Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Griff, I recently bought a new Cimarron hammered double, and I like it a lot. Comparing it to an older TTN, the hammers seem to be about the same distance apart. And, like the TTNs, the first thing you need to do is remove those "thumb slicers " from the hammers. Choctaw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Griff said: I have apparently worn-out my TTN hammered coachgun. Been in the shop for several months and I just got word that it seemingly can't be fixed. Whether because of parts or what, I didn't inquire. But, at the last several matches I shot at, it would open to nearly 90 degrees. It didn't come apart, nor did it affect lockup or shooting, but it's become a hand full to control during emptying & reloading operations. The 26" barrelled version is still working as it initially did, but, I prefer the shorter bbls for main match duty. I've had to resort back to my Stoeger Coach gun I bought back in 1/1986. The TTN was bought in 4/2014, not a good comment on its longevity, IMO. On-line shopping only provides limited information. So, I've got a few questions. Does the new Cimarron 1878 have the close-set hammers like the TTN? Are there other worthy options. Howdy Griff, I bought a new Cimarron 1878 last year and had it raced up by Snake Oil George, it’s hammers are identical to my TTNS, matter of fact it is a very close copy of my TTNS in every detail. Out of the box it really didn’t need anything if I was planning to hunt with it, opened easily, nice trigger pulls, hammers a bit stiff but not horrible, good wood and finish and wood to metal fit was good. All in all a great shotgun! Edited June 29 by Silver Creek Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I've interchanged parts between the TTN's and the Cimarron 1878. They are very much alike. J.M. I'm sending you a PM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I bought a new Cimarron 1878 last year. Hammers are just like the old TTNs. Really nice gun except the left barrel wouldn’t fire reliably. I traced the problem to the firing pin which was too short. A replacement pin from Long Hunter solved the problem. Adding on, I have another 1878 Cimarron that needs a hammer spring because the original broke and I’ve been unable to find a replacement. They’re as rare unicorns. If any of you have an old gun you’re selling for parts, or know of where I can get a new spring, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 TTN and Cimarron are the same gun. Cimarron just took over the importation. I was at the first meeting with Thomas Yu (ThomasTransNational) - Thomas is out of the picture now, but they keep getting new shipments every few years so why they can't insist on some spare parts, I don't know. I always hear "if we sell you parts, that's guns we can't make". Well dang, make some more parts! Here's a little TTN trivia for you. Thomas gave us all some of these supplements he imported. YUN ZHI PSP made from Chinese mushrooms. He said this was where the real money was! Note the importer printed on the box. (TTN gun on bottom, EMF-marked on top) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Well Hi Griff How much folding money are you willing to lay out?? I have two suggestions. First up is the Pedersoli replica of the 1878. it isn't cheap by any standard, but it is a precision instrument. Very very finely made. The Rolls Royce of Hammer Doubles. Some stiff out of the box as it is built to precise specifications. I shoot mine a lot. Next up is the relative new comer in the neighborhood. The Pietta replica of the 1878. Very Close to the Rolls Royce of Hammer Doubles. Also not cheap but it is also a precision instrument. Stiff out of the box as well as the tolerances are very close. I shoot mine a lot. The Main Springs a both are quite heavy and can stand some "work" but source a replacement set just in case. I personally don't mind the price for a super fine shotgun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASS, Singing Hills Ranch Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Rock Island $479, Pietta $878, Cimarron $1601. All in stock at Buds Guns. FWIW, I just bought the Rock Island. Shoots fine. Opens wide, no extractor, needs honing/polishing for smooth removal. Springs may be coils based on diagram, will see when I open it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Rapid Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Pedersoli makes a great s/s "Coach Gun" with tall ears on the hammers and a very solid action. Beautifully made! RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, CASS, Singing Hills Ranch said: Rock Island $479, Pietta $878, Cimarron $1601. All in stock at Buds Guns. FWIW, I just bought the Rock Island. Shoots fine. Opens wide, no extractor, needs honing/polishing for smooth removal. Springs may be coils based on diagram, will see when I open it up. Are the hammers actual working hammers on the Rock Island? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-rock-island-armory-side-by-side/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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