Blackey Cole Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The way I use to load them the best I can remember is as follows: 1) deprive/size shell 2) prime 3) add bp 4) insert plastic wad- I prefer to use Remington sts/nitro wads exact number is a blank 5) add shot 6) add over shot card - previously used 12ga size 7) glue card around edges with hot glue 8) roll edge of shell I used the 12 ga. Over shot cards because I didn't know better when I ordered them. If I'm correct I should have used 11ga over shot wads IIRC. Is that correct use 11ga overshot cards for 12 ga brass shells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Hey Blackey: According to the Circle Fly Sizing Guide: 10 gauge overshot wad for MagTech hulls: http://www.circlefly.com/html/wad_sizing_chart.html --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Tap Taylor Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 When I use 12 gauge brass shells I load like this 1) deprive/size shell 2) prime 3) add bp 4) add over powder wad 5) add fiber wad 6) add shot 7) add over shot card - previously used 11ga size 8) glue card around edges with Elmer glue Some times use two over shot cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'm just starting this journey, but this is what I have found that works for me (so far). De-prime/resize brass Prime with Magnum Large Pistol Primer Drop Powder Insert 11 gauge Nitro wad Insert 11 gauge Fiber wad Insert 11 gauge Nitro wad Drop shot 1 1/8 oz Add Glitter to top Add overshot card Apply roll crimp Glue with Elmer's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 My routine: De-Prime/Prime (do not resize) Dump Powder Nitro Over Powder Wad (11 Ga) 10Ga Plastic Wad, shot cup cut for 1oz Pay Load 2 10Ga Over Shot Cards > no Glue Don't roll the case mouth I have a very light Antique J P Sauer Hammer Double for which I delete the Over Powder Wad and just load the 10 Plastic wad for a nice lighter load. Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'm just starting this journey, but this is what I have found that works for me (so far). De-prime/resize brass Prime with Magnum Large Pistol Primer Drop Powder Insert 11 gauge Nitro wad Insert 11 gauge Fiber wad Insert 11 gauge Nitro wad Drop shot 1 1/8 oz Add Glitter to top Add overshot card Apply roll crimp Glue with Elmer's Do you say "ARRRRGGGHHH" as you shoot them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Do you say "ARRRRGGGHHH" as you shoot them? Aye, Matey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I was using the over powder nitro cards then fiber wads, shot and overshot card until I set up some 30" x 30" cardboard targets at 7 yards to show me my shot pattern. Had some really sparse holes in the center of the pattern so I switched to plastic wads and now have nice solid patterns using same equipment other than the fiber wads. In another thread, several others were experiencing the same thing. With the fairly small targets we use, I can't afford a big ole hole in the middle........... just something to test for yourself if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Thanks and thanks for the link I've got several of the brass shells now since I had a few left over from before and been buying the used ones here at a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostVaquero Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Sizing is usually not needed I find. I prime (mine take 209s), then appropriate amount of powder (I use Unique), a 11g nitro, winchester 12g plastic wad, shot, then 10ga overshot card. You have to make sure you get that nitro card tight though. A bit of looseness and you get ffftttttt rather then boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 The way I use to load them the best I can remember is as follows: 1) deprive/size shell 2) prime 3) add bp 4) insert plastic wad- I prefer to use Remington sts/nitro wads exact number is a blank 5) add shot 6) add over shot card - previously used 12ga size 7) glue card around edges with hot glue 8) roll edge of shell I used the 12 ga. Over shot cards because I didn't know better when I ordered them. If I'm correct I should have used 11ga over shot wads IIRC. Is that correct use 11ga overshot cards for 12 ga brass shells? Pretty close to how I load them: 1) Deprime (No sizing, they only get fired in one SxS so sizing isn't an issue for me.) 2) Prime 3) Add 2f bp 4) 11ga Over powder card 5) 11ga Fiber wad 6) Add shot 7) 10ga over shot card 8) Hot glue over shot card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I guess the confusing thing about loading black powder shotgun shells - brass or plastic hull - is that there is no "formula" to follow like smookeless. While black powder has some inherent cautions in handling, the resulting loads are very forgiving. The volume of black powder need not be precise and can very quite a bit. The wad materials can be any assortment of things as long as it provides the function of sealing the charge and pushes the shot out the barrel. I started out using junk Federal plastic hulls, old black powder and Pyrodex I had accumulated. I used bathroom tissue for wading and it worked. But the TP tended to catch afire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hey Rolan K, Where'd you score the Skull and Cross Bone stamp?? That is some kind of KOOL!! Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I use fiber wading fore and aft on the shot and water based super glue from Michael's to hold it all together. I do not roll the edges of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Hey Rolan K, Where'd you score the Skull and Cross Bone stamp?? That is some kind of KOOL!! Coffinmaker Coffinmaker, I found it on etsy.com Rolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Rubber stamp I use on my overshot cards: https://www.etsy.com/listing/130299713/tiny-skull-crossbones-rubber-stamp?ref=shop_home_active_63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 When I use 12 gauge brass shells I load like this 1) deprive/size shell "Deprive" it of what? Love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 This is how I load Magtec 12 gauge brass hulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm just starting this journey, but this is what I have found that works for me (so far). De-prime/resize brass Prime with Magnum Large Pistol Primer Drop Powder Insert 11 gauge Nitro wad Insert 11 gauge Fiber wad Insert 11 gauge Nitro wad Drop shot 1 1/8 oz Add Glitter to top Add overshot card Apply roll crimp Glue with Elmer's What do you use to roll crimp brass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 I use the rcbs cowboy brass shotshell die iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 What do you use to roll crimp brass? Bob, I use the RCBS die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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