Most Wanted 2 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Just don't turn on the gas and insert head. Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 1,536 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Whether the basketball rule "resets" itself after every shot from the firearm in use, or after firing all the shots required at that position (position possibly being more than one stride wide) seems to be the key. I believe the BT rule applies to the second of those two situations, not to the first. Good luck, GJ I agree... but, I've been wrong before. Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 3 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 E.g., "TO, you are getting an SDQ for moving while you were shooting." Shooter, "I wasn't moving while shooting. What I was doing is plant, shoot; plant, shoot; plant, shoot." The concern expressed by many was that if a shooter is doing the plant-shoot (or the 97 shuffle) he is walking, and if he is doing it very quickly he is running. The "clarification" has removed that defense to the application of the basketball rule. In my poor head there is only one way to change the pivot foot in basket ball dribble the ball, guess the TO above should have asked what ball he dribbled to plant shoot, plant shoot. Does this all boil down to you can shoot at Point A, You can shoot at Point B but can not shoot while transiting from Point A to Point B and oh by the way cannot have a live round in chamber when transiting from point a to point b unless it is a SxS with the action open. Link to post Share on other sites
Blastmaster 0 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 E.g., "TO, you are getting an SDQ for moving while you were shooting." Shooter, "I wasn't moving while shooting. What I was doing is plant, shoot; plant, shoot; plant, shoot." The concern expressed by many was that if a shooter is doing the plant-shoot (or the 97 shuffle) he is walking, and if he is doing it very quickly he is running. The "clarification" has removed that defense to the application of the basketball rule. In my poor head there is only one way to change the pivot foot in basket ball dribble the ball, guess the TO above should have asked what ball he dribbled to plant shoot, plant shoot. Does this all boil down to you can shoot at Point A, You can shoot at Point B but can not shoot while transiting from Point A to Point B and oh by the way cannot have a live round in chamber when transiting from point a to point b unless it is a SxS with the action open. Never could move with live round in chamber.Unless you have one foot planted as a pivot foot. Link to post Share on other sites
Santa Fe River Stan,36999L 408 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 E.g., "TO, you are getting an SDQ for moving while you were shooting." Shooter, "I wasn't moving while shooting. What I was doing is plant, shoot; plant, shoot; plant, shoot." The concern expressed by many was that if a shooter is doing the plant-shoot (or the 97 shuffle) he is walking, and if he is doing it very quickly he is running. The "clarification" has removed that defense to the application of the basketball rule. In my poor head there is only one way to change the pivot foot in basket ball dribble the ball, guess the TO above should have asked what ball he dribbled to plant shoot, plant shoot. Does this all boil down to you can shoot at Point A, You can shoot at Point B but can not shoot while transiting from Point A to Point B and oh by the way cannot have a live round in chamber when transiting from point a to point b unless it is a SxS with the action open. Never could move with live round in chamber.Unless you have one foot planted as a pivot foot. From the RO1 Safe for movement rifle in hand only Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed Action open, round on carrier or in chamber If the action is open the round can be in the chamber. Stan Link to post Share on other sites
Blastmaster 0 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 From the RO1 Safe for movement rifle in hand only Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed Action open, round on carrier or in chamber If the action is open the round can be in the chamber. Stan Stand corrected. Thanks, I knew that but was just not focused in as well as I should've been. Link to post Share on other sites
Widder, SASS #59054 7,647 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I'm going to clean my oven! you been doing a lot of oven cleaning lately.............. Just don't lose an ear ring in the oven............. ..........Widder Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,624 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Never. I treasure my earrings. Link to post Share on other sites
Shamrock Sadie 190 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I certainly hope that at Winter Range they explicitly state that you have to shoot from a specific area. I'm stating this just so they can eliminate the grey area of the clarification of the rule. If not, some TOs will call a penalty for shooting on the move and some will not. Link to post Share on other sites
Dang It Dan 13202 20 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I certainly hope that at Winter Range they explicitly state that you have to shoot from a specific area. I'm stating this just so they can eliminate the grey area of the clarification of the rule. If not, some TOs will call a penalty for shooting on the move and some will not. And how will that be different? . Link to post Share on other sites
Blastmaster 0 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 And how will that be different? . We have a winner. Nothing has changed and flip/flop calls will continue. Link to post Share on other sites
Shamrock Sadie 190 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 And how will that be different? . Ha! Ok...I'm laughing. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
Hells Comin 582 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I wouldn't worry about it at WR, Blackjack Zak is one smart cookie!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Most Wanted 2 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Would someone be so kind as to film the explanation at WR and post it here. That would go a long way in ending this confusion. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
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