Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

It is hard enough finding Uberti parts for the newer guns. Finding them for the older ones is even more difficult. I would call VTI and see if they have any old parts lying around or any suggestions. How did the old ejector get "buggered up?" Got any photos?

http://shopruger.com/Ruger-BX-25-Magazine-2-Pack/productinfo/90548/ Found at virtually every sporting goods store and gun show on the planet. You can often find these on sale. Cabelas had a mountain of them (literally) a couple of weeks ago.

It is a rivet. Does it fall through after you have flared the ends? If you want a press fit and don't want to go through the problem of upsetting the rivet I have used a 5//64 roll pin.

Yep, that is what YOU think. Everyone does not think like you or think like me and how stage instructions are interpreted in different areas of the country ain't the same. Easier to ask than to get into an argument about what "I think" should have been done after-the-fact. "Well that isn't the way we do it around here" always trumps "but that ain't they way we do it where I come from" argument.

Fingers crossed and prayers up for a positive outcome.

Like many things in SASS there is no standard. In some places if you don't start on an end you get a P or at least a very long discussion. Same with "two" separate sweeps of the plates. In some places you have to do the two sweeps from the same end. In other places you can do a "dirty" sweep, I.e., sweep one direction, double tap the end plate and sweep back the opposite direction. Whenever I'm on the road I always ask. You would be surprised at some of the answers.

Lots of fun things to see and do in San Francisco. Unfortuately gun and wild west museums aren't high on the list of things to do in San Francisco. San Franciso is a beautiful city but 100% liberal and anti-gun. They just put the last gun shop in the city out of business a few months ago. Here is a good list of local museums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_museums_in_the_San_Francisco_Bay_Area

I get a lot from here. http://www.northerntool.com You might want to rethink the "inflatable" requirement and go with foam core tires. Flats on gun carts are a PITA. Just type in "wheels" in the search bar and it will bring up several types of wheels. Pick the type you want and click on it.

Lunger and others thanks for the offers to help. Lunger the Wednesday volunteers do not haul steel or do any heavy lifting or painting. They help with the actual running of the side matches. (Spotting, timing, scoring, etc.) Running the side matches has its own set of challenges and things aren't always as easy as they might seem. Winter Range reserves virtually all the ranges on the west side of Ben Avery from February the 14th through February 27th. The side matches are on Wednesday, February 22. For the Wild Bunch match and the Cowboy action match, and for the actual Wednesday side matches, there are hundreds of people shooting so there is no question about the status of our reservations and the use of the various ranges and range buildings. However, on the long range bays even though we begin set up days before the Wednesday side matches begin and generally take them down on the Sunday and Monday following the end of Winter Range (this year that would be February 26th and 27th) the bays used for long range appear to be empty and unused on days other than side match Wednesday and other user groups want to use those bays. Trying to be good neighbors we have tried to accomodate matches that have been scheduled for the weekend of February 18th and the weekend of February 25. (We do some juggling of ranges almost every year.) Thus, we have to delay setting some long range targets and have to move other long range targets early in order to accomodate these other user groups. (These matches are using the 500 meter range. The 1000 yard range is used for parking during Winter Range.) Also, some of the bays used for long range belong to the Department of Public Safety and they only allow Winter Range to use their ranges for a limited time. So Pigpen is doing the best he can to try and accomodate shooter requests for an opportunity to sight in their rifles. Hopefully everyone that wants to will have an opportunity to fire a few practice rounds.

Here you go. http://www.sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=246569&hl=%2Bshot+%2Bshow+%2Bwinchester

That was great. I'm surprised they can do any kind of recreational shooting. Hats off to the effort it must have taken to put on such a match in a difficult political environment.

It is new made by Miruko like the 73.

Yep, it was a special run made for the Cowboy Fast Draw Association. Just a simple hammer change. Pretty much old school and not done much anymore now that pretty much everyone is using SBH hammers.

Like I said in my post, make sure your pistol ammo will work in your rifle. IF it does then using your revolver cylinder will save a lot of time. I have ammo that will drop into the gauges but will NOT work in some of my guns. For example, I have several .44-40s. Ammo that drops into the gauge will not chamber in several of my guns. What I use for a case gauge is an old Colt cylinder I bought off EBay. The chambers are to original spec .44-40 ammo. If the rounds freely drop into the cylinder and fall out when I turn it over it works in all my guns. I even have a special gauge that just measures .38 Special rim diameter as I was having trouble with some rounds not feeding properly. Finally tossed out everything except Starline and Wichester brass for my match ammo and solved that problem.

One of the things the Wilson case gauge checks in max OAL. That will, of course, not work with the shorter .38s. This should not be a big deal since pretty miuch everyone that handloads has a caliper to check OAL. P.S. I have at least ten case gauges. Seldom use them anymore. I use the cylinder from my revolvers. That way you can gauge six at at time. Initially, just make sure the ammo that works in your revolvers works in your rifle. Once you have done that if the ammo goes in your revolvers it will go in your rifle.

They have a tab, but the tab is on the same side on both springs. Uberti on the outside, Winchester on the inside.

It has two springs, but they are the same and interchangable. The Uberti and original Winchester use two different non-interchangable springs.

Don't know. They aren't running any higher pressure cartridges than the Ubertis.

The springs in the Winchester are designed differently than those in the Uberti and put a lot less stress on the parts they bear against. The Winchester is not all that bad out-of-the-box. Winchester carrier/lever spring on top. Uberti on the bottom. Winchester actually uses the same spring for the carrier and lever as the interior parts are designed slightly differently than the originals. The Uberti has a right and left side spring like an original Winchester.

Be very cautious in modifying the stock springs. Because they have so little arch it only takes a small of amount of material to be removed to make a BIG difference in how much tension the springs retain. You can go from stock tension to no tension fairly quickly. Replacements are hard to get. On the lifter/lever springs because they are basically straight I just put a shim under them to raise them a little. This effectively lowers the tension.

They use a flat mainspring but it is nothing like a Uberti. The Uberti uses a highly arched mainspring with hooks on the end that connect to a stirrup on the hammer. It is like an original Winchester. The new "Winchester" uses a much flatter mainspring that rides on a roller on the bottom of the hammer. It is not like an original Winchester. Uberti on top, new Winchester below.

Not being a fashion expert are there any photos demonstrating what you are talking about?

That was the "other" question I referenced in my earlier post. Almost without fail at any large match the number of WB shooters is 15% of those shooting the CAS match. I wonder where he is shooting that the WB shooters out number the CAS shooters?

There was at least one other thing in the article I questioned. However on this one let me ask a question. If Western 3 Gun is only shot at Piru isn't it basically dead (as far as being some sort of viable shooting sport)?

Have you looked at the price of new model frames with grips? They are hard to find and expensive when you do. You are talking way more dollars than a set of Eagle or other aftermarket grips.