Do they teach this in the military?

[Alpo]

We all know, or we certainly should all know, that when you pick up a gun you check to see if it's loaded. Even if you know that it is or it isn't, you check. Because somebody could have changed its status between the last time you looked at it and now.

 

I'm reading the first Longmire. Walt has found that there is much circumstantial evidence that says that Bear is the murderer. The two of them are going out together to search for the next victim. Walt has a 12 gauge pump and Bear has a 308 bolt.

 

They split up because there are two different places to search, and a blizzard is coming so they don't have a lot of time. Bear reaches out for the shotgun while handing over the rifle, saying that Walt is a better shot.

 

Now as he's walking away he's thinking that if he had been correct that Bear is the murderer, Bear has his shotgun and maybe gave him an unloaded rifle. Should he check? Would that make Bear upset, because checking would make it look like he suspected Bear gave him an unloaded gun.

 

There's a good page and a half of Walt trying to decide whether or not he should check the rifle to see if it's loaded.

 

Walt was a Marine in Vietnam. Bear was Army - Special Forces. It seems like if he had any type of training with a gun at all that whole "should I or shouldn't I check" nonsense would not have happened. He would have checked as soon as Bear handed him the rifle.

 

Or maybe the military doesn't teach you to check, because in the military your gun is always supposed to be empty until they order you to load it??

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

 

 

Edited October 4 by Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967

[Perro Del Diablo]

Usmc boot camp was yes when I was there. I've had other training outside of Marine Corp teaching same. NRA safety class #1 rule treat all guns as if loaded

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

They teach it. If their job does not directly involve firearms, guys get careless.

[Texas Joker]

They have a whole manual of arms for every weapon.

 

Inspection Arms results in the chamber being inspected by the soldier and the inspector. And then by the soldier again before bolt is closed on a rifle or pistol

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

YES

[Pat Riot]

Navy - Yes, though most ratings will never touch a small arm after boot camp. 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

Every gun is loaded all the time until YOU check it to make sure.  Even if I put a gun down for any length of time and pick up the same gun, I check it again.

 

In 1964 I injured a friend when I moved a gun that I would have sworn was not loaded.  I dropped it and caught it in the air and it fired. Two other guys helped the victim (who was back in action in a couple of days.) and I picked the gun up, removed the magazine and it fired again before I could pull the slide.

 

Cops gave it back after the whole thing blew over and told me to get the broken sear fixed.  I did and sold the gun to the gunsmith who repaired it.

 

I never had another AD and later bought another gun like the one that fired....but this one checked out as 100% safe and 97% appearance.

 

I still have it.

[Sedalia Dave]

Just read where a PD department tried to save money by buying their service AR-15s from Black Rain Ordnance. During acceptance testing most could easily be made to fire without pulling the trigger due to extremely poor adherence to design specifications..

[Pat Riot]

23 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:

Just read where a PD department tried to save money by buying their service AR-15s from Black Rain Ordnance. During acceptance testing most could easily be made to fire without pulling the trigger due to extremely poor adherence to design specifications..

With a tacti-cool name like Black Rain Ordnance you’d think they’d know what they’re doing…right? Why are you laughing? 
 

To me the image of black rain projects a feeling of doom. Probably why the ARs didn’t work…Doom! 

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

I have a Black Rain Ordinance AR-15. Very pleased with it - a solid, good-shooting rifle.