Texas Maverick Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Do you take any vitamins or supplements? I have Centrum Silver and have for a long time. I also take D3, B12, iron and zinc as well. But I have been taking them for years. I also have to take 7 prescription meds but I have been taking them for a long time as well. Nothing new. TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Doxylamine Succinate is the active ingredient in Costco's Kirkland Sleep Aid, and I find it works, better than dyphenhydramine, the active ingredient in many. So it sounds like you may be responding favorably to this ingredient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 24 minutes ago, Texas Maverick said: I have Centrum Silver and have for a long time. I also take D3, B12, iron and zinc as well. But I have been taking them for years. I also have to take 7 prescription meds but I have been taking them for a long time as well. Nothing new. TM Stop taking the B12. One side effect of B12 is not being able to get a good night's sleep. D vitamins can also impact your sleep. You should always take vitamins in the morning and not at night. https://healthmatch.io/insomnia/vitamins-that-cause-insomnia https://www.vita4you.gr/blog-vita4you/en/item/6-supplements-you-should-not-take-at-night.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Stop taking the B12. One side effect of B12 is not being able to get a good night's sleep. D vitamins can also impact your sleep. You should always take vitamins in the morning and not at night. https://healthmatch.io/insomnia/vitamins-that-cause-insomnia https://www.vita4you.gr/blog-vita4you/en/item/6-supplements-you-should-not-take-at-night.html thanks for the info, will switch them up today. I have also taken myself totally off caffeine. No sodas or hot chocolate like I used to drink. Also, switched from ice tea to grapefruit juice. TM Edited September 1 by Texas Maverick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 20 minutes ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: Doxylamine Succinate is the active ingredient in Costco's Kirkland Sleep Aid, and I find it works, better than dyphenhydramine, the active ingredient in many. So it sounds like you may be responding favorably to this ingredient. I am, I have always gotten a good nights sleep when taken Nyquil and that is why I have added it to my arsenal of combating this insomnia issue. I have got to find a remedy so I can get back on track. I have missed the last two weekend matches because I didn't feel comfortable and safe handling firearms. I need to get ready for Land Run in about a month. TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 24 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Stop taking the B12. One side effect of B12 is not being able to get a good night's sleep. D vitamins can also impact your sleep. You should always take vitamins in the morning and not at night. https://healthmatch.io/insomnia/vitamins-that-cause-insomnia https://www.vita4you.gr/blog-vita4you/en/item/6-supplements-you-should-not-take-at-night.html i read the articles and will switch my D3, B12 and zinc to morning meds. Thanks for the info. It is a start on my road to getting a good nights sleep I hope. TM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 (edited) My daughter in law (Thanks God, for sending her into our lives) sent me a "white sound" gadget. It's called Color Noise and came from Amazon for under $30.00. Probably made in China, but at this point I just don't care. It has ten different colors of night light if you want them but can stay dark if you don't, and a dimmer control so you can set them as bright as you want them.. It also has 24 different sounds that have volume controls, a timer for 1, 2, 3, and 4 hours or on until I turn it off. It has a memory feature and an auto-off feature. It's about 2 inches high and four inches in diameter. The only thing I find annoying is it's going to take me a month or more to try all the settings until I get it where want it to be all the time. Last night I listened a bunch of little singing birdies chirping away, until I got up and found a "rain on a widow" setting. I'll keep playing with it until I get it just right. I'd like to have an option for a very quiet and gentle snoring sound. My wife used to gently snore like a kitten, almost a sigh, and I miss that a lot. Edited September 2 by Forty Rod SASS 3935 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, Texas Maverick said: i read the articles and will switch my D3, B12 and zinc to morning meds. Thanks for the info. It is a start on my road to getting a good nights sleep I hope. TM Try skipping the extra D3 and B12 for a week and see what happens. Centrum already contains both vitamins. If you start sleeping then add each one back individually. Maybe you can isolate which one s the problem. I've know a couple people who started having trouble sleeping due to taking too much B12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 i dont take anything to help sleep , but ive often thought it might be useful , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Slim, SASS #22998 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Grapefruit Juice and Some Drugs Don't Mix Checkout this article on fda.gov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I've been reading this thread as I've had trouble sleeping for some time now. Some very good info. Also, I'm curious as to what "rain on a widow" sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sandhills Slim, SASS #22998 said: Grapefruit Juice and Some Drugs Don't Mix Checkout this article on fda.gov. Thanks, went there and searched for the article. Will see if this helps. Appreciate the info. TM Edited September 2 by Texas Maverick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 (edited) 15 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Try skipping the extra D3 and B12 for a week and see what happens. Centrum already contains both vitamins. If you start sleeping then add each one back individually. Maybe you can isolate which one s the problem. I've know a couple people who started having trouble sleeping due to taking too much B12. This info was very interesting. I took them out of last nights meds cycle and took the Trazadone and Nyquil and slept for the first time in more than 2 weeks. I went to bed around 10 and fell asleep around 10:30 and slept until 9 this morning with the short bathroom break at 5:30. My wife got up with the puppy so I didn't have to deal with him this morning. Felt very good. Hopefully, I found a formula that works. Thanks for all the info. Thanks goes out to all of you for the great suggestions and by putting them all together to come up with a plan that hopefully will work. Last night's sleep felt great. I hope it continues for more than one night. I do plan on finding a sleep aid drug to replace the Nyquil so I am not taking some drugs I don't need. TM Edited September 2 by Texas Maverick 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Seems our Costco carries the sleep aid that was mentioned to have the Doxylamine ingredient so I can take it instead of Nyquil. I will be visiting them either today or tomorrow and picking up some. Again thanks to all that have contributed to this very nasty insomnia issue. TM 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Sounding like you're reaching a positive outcome. Glad to see it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 17 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: Sounding like you're reaching a positive outcome. Glad to see it!! I was but just read that Trazadone and Nyquil (Doxylamine) should not be taken together so I am going to get some Doxylamine and try just it tonight without the Trazadone and see how that works. At least I am feeling rested right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 The only active ingredient in the Costco Kirkland "Sleep Aid" is Doxylamine Succinate, so that's one possible source. I'm sure there are others. I wouldn't 'over-research' things at this juncture. Use what works for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 13 hours ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: The only active ingredient in the Costco Kirkland "Sleep Aid" is Doxylamine Succinate, so that's one possible source. I'm sure there are others. I wouldn't 'over-research' things at this juncture. Use what works for now. I went to Costco and got it yesterday. So I took only it last night and slept until 7 this morning so it seemed to have worked. Will stay with it again tonight. I like it better than the trazadone. Thanks for letting me know because it is cheaper than the Unisom I was getting ready to buy. 2 bottles for 7 bucks. TM 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 5 nights of sleep after taking the Costco Sleep Aid. I even felt good enough to shoot a match yesterday. So I am hoping the insomnia is over. I am even considering taking a night off without the meds to see how I sleep but really don't want to rock the boat. It is good to get around 7 hours of sleep a night again. I just want to say thanks to all the cowboys and cowgirls that contributed suggestions while we worked this problem out. TM 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Well, the "white noise" gadget works. Not perfect yet but I found a sound I can live with ( a babbling brook on very low volume) and am going to raise the volume a notch at a time and drop the volume to 3 for a night or two until I get it all sorted out. I don't know who thought a diesel freight train was a soothing noise, but he should be locked away with this thing playing around the clock in his cell for a few years....maybe 30 or 40. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilli GaHoot Galoot Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Fair warning, this may not work for some folks and may even be a bit 'triggering', and I fully admit I am a bit disturbed by how soothing I find this, but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 I was just told this is my problem. So please dream of someone else for awhile. LOL TM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warden Callaway Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I've had a long battle with insomnia. I tried melatonin. It just made me sleepy but didn't help me actually go to sleep. I've started taking PM ibproan at bedtime and doing better. Last night I slept from 9:00 to 2:15. Awake to after 3:00. Awoke at 6:30. A real good night for me. Besides everything else, my old body hurts lying down in bed. I can fall asleep in my recliner easily. I don't hurt standing or setting but can't get comfortable in bed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: I've had a long battle with insomnia. I tried melatonin. It just made me sleepy but didn't help me actually go to sleep. I've started taking PM ibproan at bedtime and doing better. Last night I slept from 9:00 to 2:15. Awake to after 3:00. Awoke at 6:30. A real good night for me. Besides everything else, my old body hurts lying down in bed. I can fall asleep in my recliner easily. I don't hurt standing or setting but can't get comfortable in bed. Don't have insomnia, but was having the aches & pains in bed you describe. In the course of recovery from an injury driven surgery, Mobic / Meloxicam was prescribed (not narcotic) and a whole lot of the little pains went away. Told my Doc and got an ongoing prescription. Just one before bed time most of the pain in bed gone - sometimes I hit just the right position and all the pain is gone. Not expensive, and so far as i can tell, no downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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