Insomnia

[Texas Maverick]

2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

Do you take any vitamins or supplements?

I have Centrum Silver and have for a long time. I also take D3, B12, iron and zinc as well. But I have been taking them for years. I also have to take 7 prescription meds but I have been taking them for a long time as well. Nothing new.

 

TM

[Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619]

Doxylamine Succinate is the active ingredient in Costco's Kirkland Sleep Aid, and I find it works, better than dyphenhydramine, the active ingredient in many. So it sounds like you may be responding favorably to this ingredient.

[Sedalia Dave]

24 minutes ago, Texas Maverick said:

I have Centrum Silver and have for a long time. I also take D3, B12, iron and zinc as well. But I have been taking them for years. I also have to take 7 prescription meds but I have been taking them for a long time as well. Nothing new.

 

TM

 

Stop taking the B12. One side effect of B12 is not being able to get a good night's sleep.

 

D vitamins can also impact your sleep.

 

You should always take vitamins in the morning and not at night.

 

https://healthmatch.io/insomnia/vitamins-that-cause-insomnia

 

https://www.vita4you.gr/blog-vita4you/en/item/6-supplements-you-should-not-take-at-night.html

[Texas Maverick]

15 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

Stop taking the B12. One side effect of B12 is not being able to get a good night's sleep.

 

D vitamins can also impact your sleep.

 

You should always take vitamins in the morning and not at night.

 

https://healthmatch.io/insomnia/vitamins-that-cause-insomnia

 

https://www.vita4you.gr/blog-vita4you/en/item/6-supplements-you-should-not-take-at-night.html

thanks for the info, will switch them up today. I have also taken myself totally off caffeine. No sodas or hot chocolate like I used to drink. Also, switched from ice tea to grapefruit juice.

 

TM

[Texas Maverick]

20 minutes ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said:

Doxylamine Succinate is the active ingredient in Costco's Kirkland Sleep Aid, and I find it works, better than dyphenhydramine, the active ingredient in many. So it sounds like you may be responding favorably to this ingredient.

I am, I have always gotten a good nights sleep when taken Nyquil and that is why I have added it to my arsenal of combating this insomnia issue. I have got to find a remedy so I can get back on track. I have missed the last two weekend matches because I didn't feel comfortable and safe handling firearms. I need to get ready for Land Run in about a month.

 

TM

[Texas Maverick]

24 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

Stop taking the B12. One side effect of B12 is not being able to get a good night's sleep.

 

D vitamins can also impact your sleep.

 

You should always take vitamins in the morning and not at night.

 

https://healthmatch.io/insomnia/vitamins-that-cause-insomnia

 

https://www.vita4you.gr/blog-vita4you/en/item/6-supplements-you-should-not-take-at-night.html

i read the articles and will switch my D3, B12 and zinc to morning meds. Thanks for the info. It is a start on my road to getting a good nights sleep I hope.

 

TM

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

My daughter in law (Thanks God, for sending her into our lives) sent me a "white sound" gadget.    It's called Color Noise and came from Amazon for under $30.00. Probably made in China, but at this point I just don't care.

 

It has ten different colors of night light if you want them but can stay dark if you don't, and a dimmer control so you can set them as bright as you want them..

 

It also has 24 different sounds that have volume controls, a timer for 1, 2, 3, and 4 hours or on until I turn it off.

 

It has a memory feature and an auto-off feature.

 

It's about 2 inches high and four inches in diameter.  

 

The only thing I find annoying is it's going to take me a month or more to try all the settings until I get it where want it to be all the time.  Last night I listened a bunch of little singing birdies chirping away, until I got up and found a "rain on a widow" setting.  I'll keep playing with it until I get it just right.

 

I'd like to have an option for a very quiet and gentle snoring sound.  My wife used to gently snore like a kitten, almost a sigh, and I miss that a lot. 

[Sedalia Dave]

1 hour ago, Texas Maverick said:

i read the articles and will switch my D3, B12 and zinc to morning meds. Thanks for the info. It is a start on my road to getting a good nights sleep I hope.

 

TM

 

Try skipping the extra D3 and B12 for a week and see what happens.  Centrum already contains both vitamins.

 

If you start sleeping then add each one back individually. Maybe you can isolate which one s the problem. I've know a couple people who started having trouble sleeping due to taking too much B12.

[watab kid]

i dont take anything to help sleep , but ive often thought it might be useful , 

[Sandhills Slim, SASS #22998]

Grapefruit Juice and Some Drugs Don't Mix 

Checkout this article on fda.gov. 

[Cypress Sun]

 

I've been reading this thread as I've had trouble sleeping for some time now. Some very good info.

 

 

 

Also, I'm curious as to what "rain on a widow" sounds like.

[Texas Maverick]

1 hour ago, Sandhills Slim, SASS #22998 said:

Grapefruit Juice and Some Drugs Don't Mix 

Checkout this article on fda.gov. 

Thanks, went there and searched for the article. Will see if this helps. Appreciate the info.

 

TM

[Texas Maverick]

15 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

Try skipping the extra D3 and B12 for a week and see what happens.  Centrum already contains both vitamins.

 

If you start sleeping then add each one back individually. Maybe you can isolate which one s the problem. I've know a couple people who started having trouble sleeping due to taking too much B12.

This info was very interesting. I took them out of last nights meds cycle and took the Trazadone and Nyquil and slept for the first time in more than 2 weeks. I went to bed around 10 and fell asleep around 10:30 and slept until 9 this morning with the short bathroom break at 5:30. My wife got up with the puppy so I didn't have to deal with him this morning. Felt very good. Hopefully, I found a formula that works. Thanks for all the info.

 

Thanks goes out to all of you for the great suggestions and by putting them all together to come up with a plan that hopefully will work. Last night's sleep felt great. I hope it continues for more than one night. I do plan on finding a sleep aid drug to replace the Nyquil so I am not taking some drugs I don't need.

 

TM

[Texas Maverick]

Seems our Costco carries the sleep aid that was mentioned to have the Doxylamine ingredient so I can take it instead of Nyquil. I will be visiting them either today or tomorrow and picking up some.

 

Again thanks to all that have contributed to this very nasty insomnia issue.

 

TM

[Eyesa Horg]

Sounding like you're reaching a positive outcome. Glad to see it!!

[Texas Maverick]

17 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:

Sounding like you're reaching a positive outcome. Glad to see it!!

I was but just read that Trazadone and Nyquil (Doxylamine) should not be taken together so I am going to get some Doxylamine and try just it tonight without the Trazadone and see how that works. At least I am feeling rested right now.

[Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619]

The only active ingredient in the Costco Kirkland "Sleep Aid" is Doxylamine Succinate, so that's one possible source. I'm sure there are others.

 

I wouldn't 'over-research' things at this juncture. Use what works for now.

[Texas Maverick]

13 hours ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said:

The only active ingredient in the Costco Kirkland "Sleep Aid" is Doxylamine Succinate, so that's one possible source. I'm sure there are others.

 

I wouldn't 'over-research' things at this juncture. Use what works for now.

I went to Costco and got it yesterday. So I took only it last night and slept until 7 this morning so it seemed to have worked. Will stay with it again tonight. I like it better than the trazadone. Thanks for letting me know because it is cheaper than the Unisom I was getting ready to buy. 2 bottles for 7 bucks.

 

TM

[Texas Maverick]

5 nights of sleep after taking the Costco Sleep Aid. I even felt good enough to shoot a match yesterday. So I am hoping the insomnia is over. I am even considering taking a night off without the meds to see how I sleep but really don't want to rock the boat. It is good to get around 7 hours of sleep a night again. 

 

I just want to say thanks to all the cowboys and cowgirls that contributed suggestions while we worked this problem out.

 

TM

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

Well, the "white noise" gadget works.  Not perfect yet but I found a sound I can live with ( a babbling brook on very low volume) and am going to raise the volume a notch at a time and drop the volume to 3 for a night or two until I get it all sorted out.

 

I don't know who thought a diesel freight train was a soothing noise, but he should be locked away with this thing playing around the clock in his cell for a few years....maybe 30 or 40.

[Dilli GaHoot Galoot]

Fair warning, this may not work for some folks and may even be a bit 'triggering', and I fully admit I am a bit disturbed by how soothing I find this, but who knows

 

 

[Texas Maverick]

I was just told this is my problem.

 

 

So please dream of someone else for awhile. LOL

 

TM

[Texas Maverick]

[Warden Callaway]

I've had a long battle with insomnia.  I tried melatonin.   It just made me sleepy but didn't help me actually go to sleep. I've started taking PM ibproan at bedtime and doing better.  Last night I slept from 9:00 to 2:15. Awake to after 3:00. Awoke at 6:30. A real good night for me. Besides everything else, my old body hurts lying down in bed. I can fall asleep in my recliner easily.  I don't hurt standing or setting but can't get comfortable in bed.

[Rip Snorter]

3 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said:

I've had a long battle with insomnia.  I tried melatonin.   It just made me sleepy but didn't help me actually go to sleep. I've started taking PM ibproan at bedtime and doing better.  Last night I slept from 9:00 to 2:15. Awake to after 3:00. Awoke at 6:30. A real good night for me. Besides everything else, my old body hurts lying down in bed. I can fall asleep in my recliner easily.  I don't hurt standing or setting but can't get comfortable in bed.

Don't have insomnia, but was having the aches & pains in bed you describe.  In the course of recovery from an injury driven surgery, Mobic / Meloxicam was prescribed (not narcotic) and a whole lot of the little pains went away.  Told my Doc and got an ongoing prescription.  Just one before bed time most of the pain in bed gone - sometimes I hit just the right position and all the pain is gone.  Not expensive, and so far as i can tell, no downside.