Alpo Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I guess he's to blame for this. I just placed an order with Sportsman's Guide. First, anything over $49 ships for free. But there is a 16-cent shipping tax. There is x amount of money as sales tax and then there is shipping tax of $0.16. And there is a fuel surcharge of $1.99. The post office is going to bring it here. Why are they charging me a surcharge for fuel. They're not driving it anywhere. A tax on the shipping charge when the shipping is free, and a fuel surcharge when they're not driving it anywhere. Thank you Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I never pay a shipping tax. It must because you are so special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Shipping tax? Is that a state thing or a federal thing? I got hit with a $900 fuel surcharge when I moved from the company that hauled my moving container across country. I raised some hell about it and they said it was in the fine print of our agreement. I asked for an itemized fuel statement and miracle of miracles! They figured out that my pod was shipped with 2 others and they were inadvertently charging me too much. It went to $290. Better than $900 but still unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Shipping tax? Is that a state thing or a federal thing? I got hit with a $900 fuel surcharge when I moved from the company that hauled my moving container across country. I raised some hell about it and they said it was in the fine print of our agreement. I asked for an itemized fuel statement and miracle of miracles! They figured out that my pod was shipped with 2 others and they were inadvertently charging me too much. It went to $290. Better than $900 but still unexpected. How do they figure the surcharge. Diff in fuel prices between time your quote was and time you’re pod was moved ? Tell them Brandon said he’s bringing gas prices down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Slade Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Shipping tax? Is that a state thing or a federal thing? I got hit with a $900 fuel surcharge when I moved from the company that hauled my moving container across country. I raised some hell about it and they said it was in the fine print of our agreement. I asked for an itemized fuel statement and miracle of miracles! They figured out that my pod was shipped with 2 others and they were inadvertently charging me too much. It went to $290. Better than $900 but still unexpected. Unfortunately isn't known enough by the general public - but any time you're dealing with trucking you need to inquire about the fuel surcharge. The price of fuel is so volatile that trucking companies cannot just change their published rates every time the price of fuel fluxuates. This week the US average price of a gallon of diesel is $4.889. One year ago it was $3.406. Two years ago it was $2.394. I should add that this year the price peaked on June 27th at $5.783. A semi-truck averages 5.6 miles to the gallon. Assuming it's around 2500 miles to cross the US, that's almost 450 gallons of fuel. At $4.880, that's $2200.05 in fuel to get across the country. Considering the price of fuel has over doubled in the past two years (meaning the trip only cost $1100 in fuel in 2020), $900 is not unreasonable. And although the price of trucking prior to fuel surcharge has gone up in those two years, repair costs, truck replacement costs and labor have also shot up. I reckon you can guess what business I'm in. I will give you that the company I work for puts emphasis on making first-time customers very aware of how the fuel surcharge works. Whoever you were shipping with should have pointed that out up front (although I've found most trucking companies don't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Slade Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: How do they figure the surcharge. Diff in fuel prices between time your quote was and time you’re pod was moved ? Tell them Brandon said he’s bringing gas prices down Most companies figure their fuel surcharge weekly based on the average fuel price published by the U.S. Department of Energy. It's then applied a a percentage increase to your quoted rate. Which is why it's important to ask if the company quoting you doesn't make it clear up front. The company I work for uses $2.20 as the base price of fuel. The price of fuel was down under $2.40 per gallon at a few points in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Shipping logic; Filled a small box with goodies to send back east. Go to local pack and post. Well if we use your box it's $24.75. But if we put your box inside a USPS A box it will be $13.79?????? Wanted to order some salsa on line. $26.50 for a case of 6 jars. Their shipping was $16.80. I canceled the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Buckshot Bob said: How do they figure the surcharge. Diff in fuel prices between time your quote was and time you’re pod was moved ? Tell them Brandon said he’s bringing gas prices down 1 hour ago, Bart Slade said: Unfortunately isn't known enough by the general public - but any time you're dealing with trucking you need to inquire about the fuel surcharge. The price of fuel is so volatile that trucking companies cannot just change their published rates every time the price of fuel fluxuates. This week the US average price of a gallon of diesel is $4.889. One year ago it was $3.406. Two years ago it was $2.394. I should add that this year the price peaked on June 27th at $5.783. A semi-truck averages 5.6 miles to the gallon. Assuming it's around 2500 miles to cross the US, that's almost 450 gallons of fuel. At $4.880, that's $2200.05 in fuel to get across the country. Considering the price of fuel has over doubled in the past two years (meaning the trip only cost $1100 in fuel in 2020), $900 is not unreasonable. And although the price of trucking prior to fuel surcharge has gone up in those two years, repair costs, truck replacement costs and labor have also shot up. I reckon you can guess what business I'm in. I will give you that the company I work for puts emphasis on making first-time customers very aware of how the fuel surcharge works. Whoever you were shipping with should have pointed that out up front (although I've found most trucking companies don't). Yep. I understood there might be a charge. I just wasn’t expecting $900. The $290 was acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 It’s not a federal tax so you blamed the wrong bureacrap. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a fee at SG that some paper pusher just said “call it a tax, nobody questions them”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Isn’t Sportsman’s Guide based out of Minnesota, another bastion of Marxism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP McLintock Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Isn’t Sportsman’s Guide based out of Minnesota, another bastion of Marxism? Only in the metros, pretty normal out here in the sticks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Its one of the things many people don't check also, shipping cost. A friend in Model Railroading posted on a Forum were he won an item then complained when the shipping charges were over 70.00. The seller had specifically put in his E Bay auction what he was charging for shipping, I'm sure to make an extra buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Isn’t Sportsman’s Guide based out of Minnesota, another bastion of Marxism? MN and MI have the problem of a couple large population centers controlling the entire state . Pretty much all of MI is red. Except the capital and Wayne co “Detroit” . And they taught Cook co Ill how to fix an election. Illinois even is pretty much the same, I know most people won’t believe it, wouldn’t be a bad place to live if you could get rid of Chicago . Lots of farm country in the southern part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, JP McLintock said: Only in the metros, pretty normal out here in the sticks! Same in California. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 My folks live in a very red county in northern Minnesota and they love it. The North Woods, the wildlife, the scenery, the peace and quiet and the sane people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Marshal Dan Troop 70448 said: Its one of the things many people don't check also, shipping cost. A friend in Model Railroading posted on a Forum were he won an item then complained when the shipping charges were over 70.00. The seller had specifically put in his E Bay auction what he was charging for shipping, I'm sure to make an extra buck. That was several years ago as Ebay now requires all shipping fees to be posted in the listing. I remember how it was before ebay changed their rules. It wa quite common for the seller to tack on a large shipping fee to boost their profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Isn’t Sportsman’s Guide based out of Minnesota, another bastion of Marxism? Yep , South Saint Paul, MN AKA Minnecrapolis they double billed me on the Buyers club around the mostly peaceful protests I called them up and told them to credit it all back and take a long walk off a short pier I try real hard not to do Business with Blue states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: That was several years ago as Ebay now requires all shipping fees to be posted in the listing. I remember how it was before ebay changed their rules. It wa quite common for the seller to tack on a large shipping fee to boost their profit. YES , Ebay charges seller fees per selling costs , they cant charge fees on shipping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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