Forty Rod SASS 3935 5,965 Posted August 30 Near the end of the Civil War a man by the name of Ira Tate realized then when the war ended there would be a sudden and great mass movement to the western regions of America. The South was in shambles and the factories in the North were no longer on a war time footage, but land to the West was plentiful and cheap. Tate also realized that there would be a need for maps with the top pointing west and compasses designed to point west, just for the convenience of those who may never have seen a map nor, for that matter, a compass. Tate proceeded to find some backers and had several hundred maps and compasses made to his specifications. He had his name on each item but neglected, however, to put instructions with them. The compasses and maps often became separated and often those with one, but not the other, found them selves in Mexico and those who thought they had a Tates compass, but did, in fact, have a conventional compass wound up in Canada. It was a horrible mess and get worse over time. The situation was known as Tate's Folly and gave birth to the expression "He who has a Tate's is lost". There will be a quiz on Friday. 5 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 388 Posted August 30 Had me right till the last sentence. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 5,965 Posted August 30 6 minutes ago, Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 said: Had me right till the last sentence. SUCKER! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 6,147 Posted August 30 As soon as I saw “Tate”, I thought “is this about compasses?” 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeaconKC 386 Posted August 30 You got me too! Thanks for the chuckle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L 1,370 Posted August 30 That was Ira Tateing! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 708 Posted August 30 Though it WOULD explain some of the forced marches I was on in The Corps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 5,965 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: That was Ira Tateing! Very nicely put. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas Lizard 957 Posted August 30 22 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Though it WOULD explain some of the forced marches I was on in The Corps. I thought that was offices with no sense of direction.... Texas Lizard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 708 Posted August 30 32 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Though it WOULD explain some of the forced marches I was on in The Corps. 7 minutes ago, Texas Lizard said: I thought that was offices with no sense of direction.... Texas Lizard Officers were leading the march. With a map and compass. The saying you're thinking of is "One of the most dangerous things in The Marine Corps is a Second Lieutenant with a map and compass". 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas Lizard 957 Posted August 30 18 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Officers were leading the march. With a map and compass. The saying you're thinking of is "One of the most dangerous things in The Marine Corps is a Second Lieutenant with a map and compass". Did not have that problem in the Air Force...We flew and some was always on the radio telling then where to go.... Texas Lizard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 5,965 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Though it WOULD explain some of the forced marches I was on in The Corps. Yeah, that and 2nd Lieutenants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 2,201 Posted August 30 5 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Near the end of the Civil War a man by the name of Ira Tate realized then when the war ended there would be a sudden and great mass movement to the western regions of America. The South was in shambles and the factories in the North were no longer on a war time footage, but land to the West was plentiful and cheap. Tate also realized that there would be a need for maps with the top pointing west and compasses designed to point west, just for the convenience of those who may never have seen a map nor, for that matter, a compass. Tate proceeded to find some backers and had several hundred maps and compasses made to his specifications. He had his name on each item but neglected, however, to put instructions with them. The compasses and maps often became separated and often those with one, but not the other, found them selves in Mexico and those who thought they had a Tates compass, but did, in fact, have a conventional compass wound up in Canada. It was a horrible mess and get worse over time. The situation was known as Tate's Folly and gave birth to the expression "He who has a Tate's is lost". There will be a quiz on Friday. Will you grade on the curve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 708 Posted August 30 2 hours ago, Texas Lizard said: Did not have that problem in the Air Force...We flew and some was always on the radio telling then where to go.... Texas Lizard Somebody NEEDS to tell Air Force guys where to go. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas Lizard 957 Posted August 30 52 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Somebody NEEDS to tell Air Force guys where to go. I guess I walked into that one.... Texas Lizard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 708 Posted August 30 7 minutes ago, Texas Lizard said: I guess I walked into that one.... Texas Lizard You keep settin' them up and I'll keep knockin' them down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 6,147 Posted August 30 3 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: You keep settin' them up and I'll keep knockin' them down. Drinks? Or jokes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 708 Posted August 31 Well, YEAH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocWard 4,603 Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Drinks? Or jokes? Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 5,965 Posted August 31 6 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: Will you grade on the curve? Yeah, the one on South Montezuma right where it turns into White Spar. We'll meet a Bill's Grill for lunch afterward..... or maybe The Lone Spur... or The Palace. (I gotta get out in public more.) 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
