J.D. Daily Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just purchased my first 1873 rifle and need the bit no's required to completely disassemble the rifle wo/buggering any screws. The Officially Licensed NRA Magna-Tip Screwdriver Set that I have doesn't have a bit that properly fits the sideplate screw. I would like to know all the bit no's required to properly disassemble & reassemble the rifle. The rifle is a year 2014 model no. 342445 357M rifle w/ 18" half octagonal barrel. I have been looking for this rifle for 2 1/2 years, when one showed up on Gunbroker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padrino SASS#40228 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 This is the list I was given when I asked this question, and so far has served me well: 180-4 210-3 240-3 240-4 330-3 Magazine plug 340-4 340-6 Butt plate Hope it helps you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Howdy, I dug thru my notes and didn't find that particular list. I bet if you call Brownells they will be able to help you if you have the closest bit that fits the screw slot but isn't wide enough. Its a good idea to get their paper catalog every few years as there is info in the catalog that Ive never found online. We all need to remember that manufacturers can and do make running changes. If a bag of screws is in the way of shipping thousands of dollars worth of products, you can bet they will use whatever screw will work. I cant lay my hands on a catalog right now. I could have left it with a friend. So I might need to follow my own advice. Or that list could be fine. I doubt some nra list will be a perfect fit for this game. And once in a while the Grace tools just fit better than magna tips. I don't know why. Im a big believer in getting the right tool for the job. Having that tool on hand is another thing. Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Why not just buy the super set and be done with it? OLH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Howdy, A few years back another pard and I worked thru a short list of screwdriver tips that would work on most of the screws on our equipment. He had a pro gunshop and we came up with a most used list. The idea was to have these on hand at matches and yes, be a little easier on the wallet. If a pard with a half dozen old west style guns buys a super set, a lot of those will never be used. I got a lot of thank yous for that short list. The other pard was something like Armadillo or some such alias. What I find valuable is having a couple extra handles. Different handles for different hands. Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Key, SASS # 33713 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Padrino has nailed the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Howdy, then I will stop lookin and just copy that list. Thanks Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I found these lists that someone compiled back in 2008: Ruger Single Action150-4 *180-3 *180-4210-4 *Rossi 92150-4 *180-3 *180-5210-4 *270-4300-5340-5* Duplicated in above two setsColt/clone SAA340-3300-3270-3210-3180-3 1866/1873 180-4210-3240-3240-4340-4340-6 butt Plate Marlin 1894 180-4210-4270-4270-5 Marlin 336 300-4270-3200-3180-4180-3120-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 How about a list for a model 97 and a list for a Stoeger SxS?! Here's the Model 97 list from Brownells: 120-3 150-3 180-3 300-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 How about a list for a model 97 and a list for a Stoeger SxS?! 97's very within Winny production years and then imports can be all over the place in size. Some of the imports have to use the 'slim' blades for European guns. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 How about a list for a model 97 and a list for a Stoeger SxS?! Here's the Model 97 list from Brownells: 120-3 150-3 180-3 300-3 What about the 1887 shotgun?? TL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G W Wade Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 THANKS GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The best handle I found was at Home Depot it was a t handle so you could get some toque without killing your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thank you all for your lists and advice. The NRA kit has none of the bits for the 1873 and one for the Ruger SA. I don't recall there are many screws in a Stoeger SXS. Tang screws & screws attaching the forward stock latch. Don't need a hallow ground bit when the screws are wood type. All the parts in receiver are pinned as I recall from when I disabled the auto safety & adjusted the cocking lever lengths on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston CAS Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 So based on these entries above, here's a list of those bits, along with which Magna Tip Super Set from Brownells they are in (the 22 piece or 44 piece). The 330-4 bit Padrino mentioned wasn't shown on the website. The 44 bit set would give you all of the mentioned bits, but of course you would have some bits that aren't needed, and that set costs about $120. Buying the bits separately would be about $60, but you would need a place to put them and a driver for them. 120-3 22 44 150-3 44 150-4 22 44 180-3 22 44 180-4 44 180-5 22 44 210-3 44 210-4 22 44 240-3 22 44 240-4 44 270-3 44 270-4 22 44 270-5 44 300-3 22 44 300-4 44 300-5 22 44 330-3 (none, no such bit) 340-3 44 340-4 22 44 340-5 44 340-6 22 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 As a gunsmith this is what works best for me. You will find some deviation in the screw slots from year to year so I think the best option is to learn how to grind them to fit. I only buy about 5 different tips. You can rough them on a bench grinder but you will need a dremel with the sanding drum to make the hollow ground portion of the tips. You will want to polish the sides too. This will help prevent scratching the counter sunk screw holes. Just as important as how well the tip fits is how you plan to turn it. The Uberti rifles are notorious for really tight screws. At one time Harbor Freight offered a hand Impact driver that took these 1/4" hex tips. But, they no longer have them. The next option is to use a 3/8" or 1/2" square drive hand impact driver with a 1/4' socket on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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