Subdeacon Joe Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Some people are slow learners, and 19-year-old Jerold Riley is apparently one of the slowest. Already on probation for a domestic violence conviction, Riley decided to track down his ex-girlfriend with a .45-caliber and threaten her with it in a local drive thru. That is when his plans—whatever they might have been—fell apart when the store owner stepped behind him and dropped Riley with a shot from behind: Mr. Riley, who is on probation for a domestic violence conviction, was shot by Bobby Howard, 71, the owner of Howard‘s Drive-Thru, 1001 Nebraska Ave. Mr. Riley was inside the central Toledo carryout on Monday night, allegedly with a gun, and making threats to his ex-girlfriend. At some point, Mr. Howard pulled out a gun and shot Mr. Riley once in the back. Riley survived the attack, and is now cooling his heels in jail, his bond set at $120,000, facing charges for felony menacing and carrying a concealed weapon. Mr. Howard, who was defending both himself and Riley’s unnamed ex-girlfriend, will not be charged. Now that's what I'd call a fair fight.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Not sure that it was "fair" but it had a harmonious outcome.
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Some body comes in to a store, threatening anyone and waving a gun around, I don't care how he gets it as long as the threat is stop as soon as possible. My position is, if I am able and I have to face him down then that's what's going to happen. I will do my best to get the first shot off. If I can get behind the threat, I still plan to get the first shot off. If I happen to be anywhere where some one is waving a gun around, my life is in immediate danger as are others. The disclaimer is, I am in California and I do not have a CCW permit, so I will say, I do not carry off my property.............................................
G. I. Tarpicker, SASS #998 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." -- unknown GIT
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." -- unknown GIT If ever I've heard one, that's a quote.
Sedalia Dave Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Not sure that it was "fair" but it had a harmonious outcome. Fair, noun, A place where you go to show a pig, buy cotton candy, and ride the Ferris wheel. All other definitions are inaccurate or only exist in fairy tales.
Old Scatterbrain Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Fair, noun, A place where you go to show a pig, buy cotton candy, and ride the Ferris wheel. All other definitions are inaccurate or only exist in fairy tales. Plus one. The meaning of "fair" is so ridiculously subjective that the word has no real meaning. It should be stricken from the language.
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." -- unknown GIT +1 Do not give up any advantage in a gun fight in the spirit of fairness.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Apparently Mr. Howard was not properly armed with sufficient caliber of handgun to do the job properly. To quote Henry Fonda, in one of his Western Movies, "Any man worth shooting is worth killing".
Trailrider #896 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 IIRC John Selman shot John Wesley Hardin in the back. When asked why he did that, Selman replied that he saw Hardin watching him in the back-of-the-bar mirror. Given Hardin's reputation, Selman was not going to give him a "fair" chance of killing him, Selman.
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 When it comes to a gun fight, I don't want a fair fight. I want it HEAVILY skewed in my favor - so much so that Las Vegas wouldn't even put odds on it.
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Back shooters most often win...... Add Ben Thompson and King Fisher to the list where adversaries used the situation to their advantage. No stand in the street, they just blew the hell out of them.
Henry T Harrison Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Pat Garrett shot in the back taking a p###
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 When it comes to a gun fight, I don't want a fair fight. I want it HEAVILY skewed in my favor - so much so that Las Vegas wouldn't even put odds on it. Exactly what I meant. That's a fair fight.
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