Alpo Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 Without looking at the video, I'm pretty sure that it's because they're not lopping off the head. They are slicing off the head. If the blade is in an angle it cuts. It slices. If it was square it would rely on weight entirely. Plus I believe the guillotine was designed as a humane method of execution. So they want to make the head coming off as easy on the victim as possible. Don't want him to end up like nearly headless Nick in Harry Potter - where they hit him 14 times with a dull sword and still didn't get it off.
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11, 2024 Author Posted September 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, Alpo said: Without looking at the video, I'm pretty sure that it's because they're not lopping off the head. They are slicing off the head. If the blade is in an angle it cuts. It slices. If it was square it would rely on weight entirely. Plus I believe the guillotine was designed as a humane method of execution. So they want to make the head coming off as easy on the victim as possible. Don't want him to end up like nearly headless Nick in Harry Potter - where they hit him 14 times with a dull sword and still didn't get it off. Watch the video, You might learn something.
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 Slice rather than chop.
Alpo Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 31 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Watch the video, You might learn something. I learned several things. One thing I learned is that if they were making the guillotine today, they most likely would not use an angled blade. But the question is, did they have the science and the technology 250 years ago that these guys were using? Or did the designers use an angled blade because they presumed that a slicing cut would do a better job?
Texas Lizard Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 Maybe they did some test runs to see what work best.... Texas Lizard
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 45 minutes ago, Texas Lizard said: Maybe they did some test runs to see what work best.... Texas Lizard Using volunteers, of course.
Ozark Huckleberry Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 In the historical use of the guillotine, the neck of the condemned was stabilized so that it would not shift while being chopped. In the video, it's clear that the blades with a single angle are causing the mat to shift on impact, which gives the mat more time to compress and dilute the force of the stroke.
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 8 hours ago, Alpo said: But the question is, did they have the science and the technology 250 years ago that these guys were using?
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 ..... so, the answer to the question isn't "aerodynamics" ......... 🙃
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11, 2024 Author Posted September 11, 2024 6 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said: In the historical use of the guillotine, the neck of the condemned was stabilized so that it would not shift while being chopped. In the video, it's clear that the blades with a single angle are causing the mat to shift on impact, which gives the mat more time to compress and dilute the force of the stroke. Good points In the comments on youtube several people pointed out the same thing. They also pointed out that the roll tension of the mats varied a lot. Those used for Katana testing are rolled very tightly and consistently. The authors acknowledge the issues and stated that they would take them into account on their follow up video.
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 https://pepijndevos.nl/2024/08/24/why-is-a-guillotine-blade-diagonal.html
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11, 2024 Author Posted September 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said: https://pepijndevos.nl/2024/08/24/why-is-a-guillotine-blade-diagonal.html Quote But the story goes that the real reason the blade is diagonal is that the king suggested it might help with people with fat necks. Ironically his own fat neck ended on the block some time later.
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 Possible the use of a curved blade for easier severing of heads?
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