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Alpo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Without looking at the video, I'm pretty sure that it's because they're not lopping off the head. They are slicing off the head. If the blade is in an angle it cuts. It slices. If it was square it would rely on weight entirely. Plus I believe the guillotine was designed as a humane method of execution. So they want to make the head coming off as easy on the victim as possible. Don't want him to end up like nearly headless Nick in Harry Potter - where they hit him 14 times with a dull sword and still didn't get it off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 5 minutes ago, Alpo said: Without looking at the video, I'm pretty sure that it's because they're not lopping off the head. They are slicing off the head. If the blade is in an angle it cuts. It slices. If it was square it would rely on weight entirely. Plus I believe the guillotine was designed as a humane method of execution. So they want to make the head coming off as easy on the victim as possible. Don't want him to end up like nearly headless Nick in Harry Potter - where they hit him 14 times with a dull sword and still didn't get it off. Watch the video, You might learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Slice rather than chop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 31 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Watch the video, You might learn something. I learned several things. One thing I learned is that if they were making the guillotine today, they most likely would not use an angled blade. But the question is, did they have the science and the technology 250 years ago that these guys were using? Or did the designers use an angled blade because they presumed that a slicing cut would do a better job? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Maybe they did some test runs to see what work best.... Texas Lizard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 45 minutes ago, Texas Lizard said: Maybe they did some test runs to see what work best.... Texas Lizard Using volunteers, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zook Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) Deleted out of respect for others... Edited September 11 by Dr. Zook Deleted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 In the historical use of the guillotine, the neck of the condemned was stabilized so that it would not shift while being chopped. In the video, it's clear that the blades with a single angle are causing the mat to shift on impact, which gives the mat more time to compress and dilute the force of the stroke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 hours ago, Alpo said: But the question is, did they have the science and the technology 250 years ago that these guys were using? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 ..... so, the answer to the question isn't "aerodynamics" ......... 🙃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Dr Zook Yes It Is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 6 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said: In the historical use of the guillotine, the neck of the condemned was stabilized so that it would not shift while being chopped. In the video, it's clear that the blades with a single angle are causing the mat to shift on impact, which gives the mat more time to compress and dilute the force of the stroke. Good points In the comments on youtube several people pointed out the same thing. They also pointed out that the roll tension of the mats varied a lot. Those used for Katana testing are rolled very tightly and consistently. The authors acknowledge the issues and stated that they would take them into account on their follow up video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 https://pepijndevos.nl/2024/08/24/why-is-a-guillotine-blade-diagonal.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said: https://pepijndevos.nl/2024/08/24/why-is-a-guillotine-blade-diagonal.html Quote But the story goes that the real reason the blade is diagonal is that the king suggested it might help with people with fat necks. Ironically his own fat neck ended on the block some time later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Possible the use of a curved blade for easier severing of heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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