Alpo Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Watching Kelly's Heroes. The beginning, and the Germans were coming, and Little Joe (Stuart Margolin) is suggesting they beat feet. Said he did not want to spend the rest of the war in a prison camp. Besides, he was first generation Italian, so they would shoot him. Hmmm John Banner - Sergeant Schultz - that accent was real. He was a Jew whose family had left Austria because of Hitler. And, he was in the United States Army during World War II. I wonder if, if he had been captured, they would press him into the German army or they would stick him in a POW camp, or they would shoot him outright as a traitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I was involved in a large charity event featuring Colonel Klink. An arrogant, obnoxious, "superior" individual who I had to work with. I was surprised he could manage the inept character in the TV show. In person, he came off as the real, dyed in the wool thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 23 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: I was involved in a large charity event featuring Colonel Klink. An arrogant, obnoxious, "superior" individual who I had to work with. I was surprised he could manage the inept character in the TV show. In person, he came off as the real, dyed in the wool thing. He was said to play klink that way on purpose. He even had it in his contract that Klink could never come out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Herr Klemperer was no one you would care to spend time with. The several other Stars of the event apparently agreed. My impression was that it was a good thing from his standpoint. Olden days, old grudges. I can't imagine the man is still alive. May he RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Consider https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/NCO-Journal/Archives/2016/February/POW-Master-Sergeant-Told-Nazis-We-Are-All-Jews/ https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/jewish-american-pows-europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, Alpo said: I wonder if, if he had been captured, they would press him into the German army or they would stick him in a POW camp, or they would shoot him outright as a traitor? Probably the latter. In my family I was raised to hate Germans, Russians and Japanese. In the Navy the Soviets were our enemy, though they weren’t on paper. I have worked with Germans, Russians and Japanese. I have a great deal of respect for the Japanese people. I don’t have much nice to say about Russians, though I do give them the benefit of the doubt. After working in a German company and dealing with them in Germany and here I must say that I don’t really care for working for them. I would say more, but I don’t want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 12 hours ago, Alpo said: Watching Kelly's Heroes. The beginning, and the Germans were coming, and Little Joe (Stuart Margolin) is suggesting they beat feet. Said he did not want to spend the rest of the war in a prison camp. Besides, he was first generation Italian, so they would shoot him. Hmmm John Banner - Sergeant Schultz - that accent was real. He was a Jew whose family had left Austria because of Hitler. And, he was in the United States Army during World War II. I wonder if, if he had been captured, they would press him into the German army or they would stick him in a POW camp, or they would shoot him outright as a traitor? Depends who they were captured by. I'm about half way through the book D-Day: The Unheard Tapes, which covers D-Day from individuals on both sides. At least some of the SS units did not take prisoners and would even shoot Wehrmacht soldiers under some circumstances. In return the British and Canadians facing those SS units would stop taking prisoners as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 In war what good are prisoners of war to the army that takes them? 1. They’re a burden in every way. 2. I am sure not much actionable information is acquired about the enemies movement la and plans. 3. Resources that could keep your military functioning are diverted to maintaining prisoners. In my opinion, taking prisoners just gives the closet sadists and sociopaths an avenue of satisfaction for their proclivities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Pat Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I was watching a program on the graves at Normandy. They often used POWs to help dig temporary graves for our soldiers there at Normandy. A lot of Prisoners thought they were digging their own graves and were going to be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I was interested to learn that Adolph Hitler's nephew was a US Navy sailor in WWII, serving as a Medical Corpsman afloat. Another tidbit I recall from many decades ago: a LIFE magazine article about Joseph Stalin's daughter living in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 10 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: I was interested to learn that Adolph Hitler's nephew was a US Navy sailor in WWII, serving as a Medical Corpsman afloat. Another tidbit I recall from many decades ago: a LIFE magazine article about Joseph Stalin's daughter living in the US. I believe Stalin’s daughter lived in Spring Green, WI, for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 21 hours ago, Pat Riot said: . They’re a burden in every way. Some food, shelter, and clothing. Use garrison troops that aren't fit enough for front line service. 21 hours ago, Pat Riot said: . I am sure not much actionable information is acquired about the enemies movement la and plans. Just like radio intercepts, you never know what little snippet of information might supply a key to making something clear. 21 hours ago, Pat Riot said: . Resources that could keep your military functioning are diverted to maintaining prisoners. The only time that I can recall where that happened was in Confederate POW camps late in the War of 1861. But the most important reason is to not descend into barbarism and savagery. 21 hours ago, Pat Riot said: In my opinion, taking prisoners just gives the closet sadists and sociopaths an avenue of satisfaction for their proclivities. Instead you give them free rein on the field, to kill people who have stopped fighting. How then are you different than https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/15/world/meast/iraq-photos-isis/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 Spring Green? I've been there. Little bitty town. Stayed in the motel there on the way to Fandango in '05. I said A motel, and otto changed it to THE motel. He might be right. That town is so little they might only have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Some food, shelter, and clothing. Use garrison troops that aren't fit enough for front line service. Just like radio intercepts, you never know what little snippet of information might supply a key to making something clear. The only time that I can recall where that happened was in Confederate POW camps late in the War of 1861. But the most important reason is to not descend into barbarism and savagery. Instead you give them free rein on the field, to kill people who have stopped fighting. How then are you different than https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/15/world/meast/iraq-photos-isis/index.html Joe, war is war, in my opinion. And yes, I would be one barbaric mother(bleep) if I were in charge of a war. We would win or die. No in between. Our methods of fighting wars are watered down and improvised methods of old Europe with nobles making rules of engagement. If war was fought and managed like a WAR and not a war game to placate certain elements of the masses there wouldn’t be any wars and people would play nice within their borders. War should not be gentlemanly filled with gallantry and tradition. It should be brutal, bloody and fast. This is my opinion and this is all I will say on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just like the mohammedean Einsatzgruppen on October 7. At least you're honest about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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