Lash Toru Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I load .32 S&W Starline Brass on a Dillion 650. The last box of Federal Primers I purchased has been giving me problems loading. About 6 out of every 100 will not seat in the brass (new starline Brass). (That means about 300 out of 5000 want seat) You can feel it when you push the 650 handle to set the primer, a lot of resistance. If they do seat they are all smashed in the pocket. I called Federal and they had me send a few brass with primers that would not seat. They called back and said it was the brass. I loaded about 300 (same new brass) with primers I bought 3 years ago, no issues. Any body else having any issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 You may have some tight primer pockets. This gauge will identify the problem cases. I used one to check .223 brass for swaged primer pockets. https://ballistictools.com/store/reloading-products/swage-gage-small-primer-pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Monger Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I was loading .32 S&W in new Starline cases a couple weeks ago. Using Remington primers I had no problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Pepper Kid, SASS #60463 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Did you tumble the new brass first? New brass can be hard to reload because of residue from the manufacturing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Don't blame the primers..... Could be your machine. How much up/down play do you have in the shell plate? You want ZERO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lash Toru Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Don't blame the primers..... Could be your machine. How much up/down play do you have in the shell plate? You want ZERO. I’ll check that out, but it’s funny I didn’t have any problem with the older primers. Same press same brass! Just strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 You have a caliper, right? Compare the diameter of the primers at issue with the older ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Lash Toru said: I’ll check that out, but it’s funny I didn’t have any problem with the older primers. Same press same brass! Just strange. That is always that first thing every says when a problem props up. I have had this happen several times over the years. Ammo loaded fine the last time I run a batch and then problems. The last time this happened I was having the exact same problem as you are having. Six or seven primers out of a hundred were getting squashed. Turns out it was a broken index ring and the break was not visible just inspecting the press. It is highly unlikely the problem is the primers. Check your machine very carefully as it is most likely something has gotten out of wack. Scroll down a few posts and look for the thread XL 650 “old faithful” broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 A couple years ago I had one sleeve of Federal large pistol primers that had a few that were too big to fit in the pick- up tube! Drove me nuts trying to find which one! Finally just put them on the primer punch one at a time and felt no difference seating them. The rest of the brick were as usual. Even tried all 6 of my pick up tubes and all of sudden ya couldn't pick up anymore. Had to know (knock) them out with a wood dowel and try again. Had to be one or more that just weren't sized right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lash Toru Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 14 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: That is always that first thing every says when a problem props up. I have had this happen several times over the years. Ammo loaded fine the last time I run a batch and then problems. The last time this happened I was having the exact same problem as you are having. Six or seven primers out of a hundred were getting squashed. Turns out it was a broken index ring and the break was not visible just inspecting the press. It is highly unlikely the problem is the primers. Check your machine very carefully as it is most likely something has gotten out of wack. Scroll down a few posts and look for the thread XL 650 “old faithful” broke. Thanks! Very helpful post. Now to get home from EOT and take the press apart and check it all out. Think I’ll stop by Dillon while I’m so close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Dillon normally has a tent at EOT and brings lots of spare parts with them. You might be able to get what you need at the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Dutch, SASS # 7995 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 21 hours ago, Lash Toru said: I load .32 S&W Starline Brass on a Dillion 650. The last box of Federal Primers I purchased has been giving me problems loading. About 6 out of every 100 will not seat in the brass (new starline Brass). (That means about 300 out of 5000 want seat) You can feel it when you push the 650 handle to set the primer, a lot of resistance. If they do seat they are all smashed in the pocket. I called Federal and they had me send a few brass with primers that would not seat. They called back and said it was the brass. I loaded about 300 (same new brass) with primers I bought 3 years ago, no issues. Any body else having any issues? I had a different problem with Fed LG Primers about 5or 6 years ago and I contacted the people at Federal and I found that the people at federal don't have a clue !!!!!!!!!!!!! V.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Yes! Lash - I have had some issues… some get stuck in the primer tubes when I’m dropping them in… some don’t seat well - feel funny - but I’m not organized enough to keep a record… of course Federal said it was the brass. I’m surprised you got a response. I and others have also had failures to fire…. Now, Federal has sold out to a Czech Group for $1.9 Billion. I don’t really trust them anymore… Super big hugs! See you at EOT! Scarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/21/2024 at 10:12 PM, Lash Toru said: I’ll check that out, but it’s funny I didn’t have any problem with the older primers. Same press same brass! Just strange. Same here. Same press, same brass, different brand of primers when my press stopped auto indexing! Got to be the primers right? That's the only variable that changed. Wrong. Part broke on the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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