Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Howdy Reloaders,I was recently gifted a trash bag of fired shotshells. In with the red AA's were a bunch of grey shells marked as AA's. A quick look at my Lyman SS handbook only shows AA's as red. Some measuring and critical eyeballing seems to show these are the same. Being new to shotshell reloading, I thought I'd consult cowboys who have more experience than me.What's the deal here?Rev. Chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I’ve loaded both. No issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I see no difference. If I recall correctly, the grey ones were some sort of anniversary edition ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: I see no difference. If I recall correctly, the grey ones were some sort of anniversary edition ones. Winchester AA hulls have been made in 3 colors, Silver, Red, and Gray. Per Winchester, there is no difference between them when it comes to reloading. The Silver ones were issued in 89 or 90 for the 25th anniversary of the Winchester AA hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I’ve loaded both as well with no problems or difference in performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still hand Bill Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Winchester AA did come in gray/silver. Also orange. The bigger difference in AA hulls is the compression formed single piece vs the AA-hs two piece. The plastic is a little more matte on the compression formed. Many consider these the better hull, but it’s been 10+ years since they were made. The AA-hs hulls are glossy, also that’s current production. some say they had issues with base wads coming loose on the first ones, but it seems to be “fixed” now. If I was loading AA hulls I would use AA-hs. I do save all the compression formed hulls I can find as they load the same as Remington hulls. Load data does not differentiate between the two, but I found using a shorter wad on the AA-hs hulls helps with fit. Ie I use a 1 oz wad for 7/8 oz loads, 1 1/8 wad for 1 oz loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Halls Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 They also had a Black case marked Handicap. Shot alot of them from the 23 yard line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Big Boston" Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I shot skeet way back in the day, AA hulls were what everyone used. The trap shooters were a bit fussier, I'd got hulls from them. There are subtle differences. First, different color plastic can have different characteristics. IOW the pigment, being a different formulation, makes the plastic different. Some colors would split sooner, some would crimp better, some patterned a bit better, some ejected easier. Winchester had handicap loads, normal loads, Olympic loads, all in different colored hulls or sometimes not. The load data was the same, but if you had a P-W or other high end progressive, and wanted consistent crimps, you sorted and selected the hulls you used. The crimp is a factor in having consistent velocities and patterns. But, we're cowboys, if they load OK, shoot OK, and eject OK, you're golden. I've just bought my ammo for years, but the price has doubled, I may have to begin reloading again. All my old wads got brittle and crumbled, but I still have a few hundred new unfired Blue magic hulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Howdy helpful Responders, It sounds like I'm good with the different colors and can keep using the same components. Thanks for the help fellas, Rev. Chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 same loading recipe but think the gray ones last a bit longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187L Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 My TTN hated them, wouldn't come out after they were fired, no problems with the red AA's. I measured the bases and they were a bit longer in the the gray's but that was years ago and I don't remember the exact extra length... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 a friend loaded them exclusively , he swore by AA hulls , he loaded the gray with BP and the red with smokeless , made sorting in the cart easy for his family of shooters , he said there was no difference , i think its just pigment/stain that colors them , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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