Buckshot Bear Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Watched The Undefeated last night as our Saturday night movie, can anyone tell me what rifles (carbines) these are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Hard to tell, maybe a Sharps Cavalry Carbine with some prop masters idea of a sling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: Hard to tell, maybe a Sharps Cavalry Carbine with some prop masters idea of a sling. There were lots and lots of them. Great movie, I went to sleep last night thinking "where the hell did they get all those horses from"?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: Hard to tell, maybe a Sharps Cavalry Carbine with some prop masters idea of a sling. They were all full wood (right to the muzzle) doesn't really show it all that well in the photo I snapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Anachronism Stew: The film is stated to take place during the end of the Civil War, in 1865, but elements from other time periods appear: The cavalry uniforms are from the Indian Wars (1870s-1880s) rather than the ones used during the Civil War (1860s). The Confederates are using 1873 Springfield Trapdoor rifles, the Mexican bandit leader is using an 1873 Trapdoor Carbine, and John Henry Thomas is using an 1873 Colt Peacemaker and an 1892 Winchester rifle. In the opening scene, Union soldiers are marching past the screen carrying a flag with 48 stars on it. During the Civil War the Union flag only had either 34 or 35 stars. The song played during the Mexican reception to Americans is "La Adelita", which actually would not be composed until 1914 or 1915, i.e. some 50 years after the time period of the film. When the cowboys are around the campfire, Webster talks of sending a letter and that it could go on the Pony Express. The Pony Express dissolved in October 1861. It also did not go into South Texas where the cowboys, apparently, were traveling. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TheUndefeated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Hooray for Hollywood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Cash Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 and as the closing credits run a white chevy pick up is in the background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Power lines, tire tracks, antennas, and contrails all show up in movies and television shows all the time!! I often get a pretty good giggle out of the scenery in shows. Background shots showing land formations that absolutely do not belong in the supposed area where the story takes place have become amusing rather than upsetting! Scenery from Monument Valley in a movie set in east Texas is the sort of thing I’m talking about! It happens all of the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Whatever it is, it appears to be the same type gun the bandits that attempt the ambush on the trail were using. Leastways what their leader had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Looks like a cut down Springfield Trap Door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Could be musketoons or something rigged up to look like one. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Internet search turned up " The movie is set in 1865. The Confederates are using 1873 Springfield Trapdoor rifles, the Mexican bandit leader is using an 1873 Trapdoor Carbine, John Henry Thomas is using an 1873 Colt Peacemaker and an 1892 Winchester rifle. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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