Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 1,722 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Hi Folks: Going thru the primer stash, I found a brick of CCI 209M primers. I got them from an old friend years ago, and he has passed, so I thought I would verify my thoughts here. Planning on using them for my black powder shotshells. Mike Venturino always advised using magnum primers in BP rifle cartridges. I figure that in BP shotshells, (essentially low-pressure loads), they would be safe & OK to use. What does the expertise on the Wire say??? Thanks in advance. --Dawg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chancy Shot, SASS #67163 55 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 You are just trying to light a fire under the gunpowder. What could go wrong? Chancy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,345 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 GTG or SASS OLG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish ike, SASS #43615 1,168 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said: Mike Venturino always advised using magnum primers in BP rifle cartridges. The current trend around here for quality BP long range loads is match grade large pistol primers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackwater 53393 5,681 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I use Cheddite standard 209s in everything that I shoot except for those MagTec brass shells that require LPPs! Absolutely no issues!! Your CCIs should be just fine!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,380 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Sure Go for it >>> they work a charm .... Jabez Cowboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,345 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 9 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: The current trend around here for quality BP long range loads is match grade large pistol primers. You need a paper 'wad' at the bottom of the primer pocket to raise the primer, because LPP are not as tall as LRP. There's also cases of damage to the bolt breechface from primer set back using LPP. OLG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 1,722 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 Thanks for all your comments. I was pretty sure they would work just fine, but thought I would get some input just to verify. --Dawg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Cornelius Gilliam, SASS#5875TG 41 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I've used CCI 209M to load BP shotgun shells. They worked great. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish ike, SASS #43615 1,168 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 9 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: You need a paper 'wad' at the bottom of the primer pocket to raise the primer, because LPP are not as tall as LRP. There's also cases of damage to the bolt breechface from primer set back using LPP. OLG Well, the 15 shooters here that shoot single shot big bore black powder all use Federal LPP match grade. Have been for the last 12 years or so. I guess were just wrong. But we'll keep on doing it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackwater 53393 5,681 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: Well, the 15 shooters here that shoot single shot big bore black powder all use Federal LPP match grade. Have been for the last 12 years or so. I guess were just wrong. But we'll keep on doing it. You using large pistol primers in shotshells?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish ike, SASS #43615 1,168 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Blackwater, I was responding to the comment about using magnum primers in BP cartridges. We use LPP match grade primers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Bullweed 449 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Dawg, I use magnum primers in all cartridges. I use 209M primers when I can find them in bp shotshell. Cases and hulls are cleaner, no visible issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 1,722 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Thanks Good to have my thoughts verified --Dawg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,380 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I ran pressure tests on this load 4.3 cc of Goex 3f windjammer wad 1 3/16 oz 7 1/2 in AA cases and the difference in pressure was less than 200 PSI, between 209- and 209 Mag primers ... I really like CCI Benchrest LR primers in loading for my .40-65 Highwall, they give lower SD .... Jabez Cowboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tequila Shooter 1,436 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Dawg - used 209M in 10ga brass shells with 100gr of 2f goex, no problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
portugeejn 13 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) When I was actively shooting BP and loading my own shotshells, I used 209 primers with BP and they worked fine. No issues at all. As I remember I used a couple different brands, Winchester and CCI. (Edit, I just reread the original post and saw that the question was about Magnum primers-I used standard primers.) Edited January 16 by portugeejn Newly read information Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,380 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I will mention that the pressures were more consistent with the 209 Mag. primers ... As were the velocities not that, this has any real meaning for our game . Happy New Year to any I might have missed .... Jabez Cowboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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