Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 My carrier had the button and spring assembly self-destructed during the rifle part of a stage. Found all the parts. The washer is bent and probably trash Is there an 'e' clip that I can use to hold the assembly in the carrier? thanks cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Walt. 92206 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 yes, there is. I am not sure what it is, but I replaced my washer with an e clip. I just took it to the hardware store with me. I know that Widder knows the size, I am sure that he will chime in with the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maker-Wright Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Widder spent about an hour on the phone with me the other night talking about Marlin Stuff. The "Widdermatic" man is a very knowledgeable, and intuitive Marlin authority... Not to mention a helluva nice guy. If ANYONE knows what could be used to fix it, I'm sure Widder does. I'd send Widder a PM if'n I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thanks WW and MW. YES, its a 1/8" e-clip. Ifn ya have trouble finding one at a local hardware store, holler back at me and I'll send ya one. AND, ifn your spring was damaged during this mishap, you can use an appropriate sized ink pen spring to replace it. Best regards. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yep, just go down to Ace Hardware with the pin and make sure you get the right size. All their e clips are in bins so you can try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Howdy, Too bad someone don't have a FAQ page to put all this kinda info in one easy to find place..... Maybe I need to make one..... Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick McClade Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Same offer as widder , I have plenty of them on hand and will be glad to ship it to you at NO charge also have the spring if you need it. PM me your address if you need it. Slick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepnmud#33546 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 CR is just HARD on his guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 CR is just HARD on his guns. I'll have you know this is the first time I broke this part--others, well that's another story. Thanks for the info. I'll give my local ACE a try. Most times they just see me come in to mail stuff for Miss Violet. They'll be shocked to actually have be buy something cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Two summers back, a Cowboy Pard handed me a relatively new 1894 that had only been fired less than a box of shells. The action was locked up tight. I took it apart and the retaining washer on the carrier had worked itself off. On my Marlins, even those I bought new a couple years back, I clip the washer off and install the e.clip ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Do you need to grind a notch in the pin to hold the e-clip? This sounds like a good preventative maint. thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Eyesa, the notch (groove) should already be in the plunger stud (pin). ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Widder, Excellent---sounds like a good thing to do before a problem arrises. Eyesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Eyesa, I've probably installed (or given away to Marlin pards) about 50 of these eclips. I know of only 3 of them breaking off and ALL of those were within the first 50 or so cycles of the action. Those 3 could be attributed to some metal flaw in the eclip. And the eclip replacement has been reliable for the past couple years on those Marlins. One of those rifles belongs to me. As with anything, there's always gona be that little gremlin occur. My very first usage of an eclip is on my original Widdermatic Marlin, which has functioned perfect for over 4 years now. I've seen alot more problems with that factory retaining washer than I've every experienced with any eclip, especially in the usage of Cowboy shooting. At the same time, I have seen a couple rifles that have been used extensively and the factory retaining washer still works perfect and sits tight on the plunger stud. Its a good fix and I use eclips on ALL my Marlins. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 What does that plunger actually do anyway?, Also a bit off topic, but how often do you recommend disassembly of the bolt to clean the firing pin and extractor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Eyesa, that plunger is critical in raising your carrier during the upwards movement (or closing) of your lever. During the closing of your lever, it rides on the flat portion of your lever directly in front of the snail cam. This causes the carrier to rise upwards to the chamber entrance. Taking out your firing pin and Extractor for cleaning is subjective to how dirty your loads are, shooting in inclement weather, humidity, etc. I take out my Extractor about every 6 months and clean that hole with Q-tips soaked with Marvels Mystery Oil. It takes about 5 q-tips. Then I use my compressor to blast alittle air down in that hole just to help clean out any other residue. As long as my firing pin freely moves (rattles) when I shake the bolt, I don't take it out for cleaning.....UNLESS I get caught in a bad rain while on the range. There are Pards who clean theirs more often and some Pards who clean it less often. There are too many particulars to suggest that any type cleaning maintenance that will work for everyone equally. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Karl Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It's all Greek to me, but it's gotta be music to the ears of those who have a problem . Widder is the man when it comes to Marlins....shame that the manufacturer doesn't hire him as a consultant. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Eyesa, that plunger is critical in raising your carrier during the upwards movement (or closing) of your lever. During the closing of your lever, it rides on the flat portion of your lever directly in front of the snail cam. This causes the carrier to rise upwards to the chamber entrance. Taking out your firing pin and Extractor for cleaning is subjective to how dirty your loads are, shooting in inclement weather, humidity, etc. I take out my Extractor about every 6 months and clean that hole with Q-tips soaked with Marvels Mystery Oil. It takes about 5 q-tips. Then I use my compressor to blast alittle air down in that hole just to help clean out any other residue. As long as my firing pin freely moves (rattles) when I shake the bolt, I don't take it out for cleaning.....UNLESS I get caught in a bad rain while on the range. There are Pards who clean theirs more often and some Pards who clean it less often. There are too many particulars to suggest that any type cleaning maintenance that will work for everyone equally. ..........Widder Thanks Widder, much appreciated Eyesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Eyesa, i got your PM and replied. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 CR, ignore what all these folks are tellin' ya. Once that washer comes off, the carrier is unfixable. Since you're a pard of mine, just bring that old broke carrier to the next shoot and I'll take it off your hands so it can be destroyed properly..... Laz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Gosh Laz, thank you so much. I would hate to make a mistake and use it after I fix it. I know you'll take care of it for me and put it where it needs to go (like in your spare parts box. cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICIOUS, SASS#8014 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Howdy; Wore out or broke the pin on a 45 colt (,much used) The oringinal Marlin folk fixed it and gave me a spare complete lifter. Said the rifle was desinged for hunters fireing 100 rounds a year, not 100 per day. You cowboys! she giggled, on the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks WW and MW. YES, its a 1/8" e-clip. Ifn ya have trouble finding one at a local hardware store, holler back at me and I'll send ya one. AND, ifn your spring was damaged during this mishap, you can use an appropriate sized ink pen spring to replace it. Best regards. ..........Widder Glad I found this thread! Just exploded the one in my Ol reliable 45LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Key, i sent ya an PM. Catch ya later. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yee Haw!!! Fixed!!! I love the Wire!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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