evil dogooder Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Can a uberti replica shoot factory smokeless ammo safely? ? Respectfully Evil dogooder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Within reason. Keep pressures within SAAMI specs for the chambering and it'll be fine. I shoot mine with both BP and smokeless. No issues, and none expected. Edited to add: "Factory" can cover a multitude of loadings. Stay away from "+P" or high performance rounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Yes and even heavier bullets such as the 300gr 454 Casull. But don't make a steady habit shooting the larger bullets - it's a brass framed rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Yes and even heavier bullets such as the 300gr 454 Casull. But don't make a steady habit shooting the larger bullets - it's a brass framed rifle John Boy, I think I know what you are trying to say but the way you have it worded it appears you are saying the Uberti 1860 Henry is safe with 300 grain 454 Casull's. I think you are saying it's safe with 300 gr bullets if they are down loaded to standard 45LC pressures, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Howdy If you read Mike Venturino's book Lever Guns of the Old West he relates the story of a brass framed Henry that had its head space ruined by shooting a few high powered rounds. But as long as the ammo is kept within SAMMI specs the rifle will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Any toggle link will handle SAAMI pressure loads IF the links are properly fitted. If not, it'll be out of spec on headspace in a few rounds of anything more than powderpuff loads. PROPERLY FITTED LINKS are key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldom Seen #16162 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The frame and the toogle link action is the same as the 1866 Improved Henry. The 1866 was improved with the Kings Patent Loading gate. I can attest to personally shooting over 11,000 CAS loads through a Yellowboy without any problems whatsoever. The main weakness of the Henry is loading the magazine tube. Care must be taken to load the rounds with the rifle in a horizonal position and avoid letting the magazine lever slam on the loaded rounds. This may cause some of the rounds to explode creating the chance for hand injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks all. I am debating a trade for a 24 inch rifle and as I don't reload yet was concerned about ammo as my local shop rarely stocks cowboy ammo I generally shoot target/hunting loads . Any advice? Besides start loading... that's the plan just not there yet Respectfully Evil dogooder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think you are saying it's safe with 300 gr bullets if they are down loaded to standard 45LC pressures, I hope. Sorry Nate & the Board, should have added the down loaded words. At one of the SJ gun clubs, we have 100-200-300 lever matches. I use the 454 Casull's for it and they are a tad higher than my CAS 45LC's. And the extra grains will help make it out to 500 meters. Here's a picture of 2 Rams that went down in a row using my normal CAS load & the Casull's ... http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd220/Meadowmucker/Ridgeway%20Oct%202007/PDRM2906.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Shooting SAAMI spec loads are perfectly fine as others mentioned...and if you are going to use it for CAS only you will definately be fine as the rules limit muzzle velocity anyway. Get it...I dig mine when I shoot it. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas John Ringo, SASS #10138 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Uberti also makes/made a steel frame Henry, you do know, don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 The materials are better than the originals but the technology is the same as it was in the 1860s and '70s. Your last post sounds like we have gone from low end smokeless loads to whatever the the local shop might have on hand at match time, target OR hunting loads, I think I read. If the links fail and the gun is destroyed then its just money BUT I do not know the possible results of a toggle link undergoing a catastrophic failure? Could this cause shooter injury guys? If ammunition supplies are questionable I would stick with a Marlin or a '92, to be on the safe side, and save the toggle links until a dependable supply of suitable ammunition is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 The loads the local shop carries are Winchester super x target range loads 255. Gr lead round nose those are what I always get when they don't have cowboy ammo. Are they safe? It doesn't say the fps or pressure on the box. I have a 92 src in 357 that I use for sass and hunting. I just have always admired the henry. I care not for speed. I have a bet going with my wife if I get ten straight clean matches I get to purchase a sharps if I miss then the inlaws are visiting from Thanksgiving to new years. So I'm going to make darn sure I don't miss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Dogooder Those loads would be safe in any of the toggle link rifles chambered in 45 colt,you are going to Like that Henry rifle. Adios Sgt. Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Dogooder Those loads would be safe in any of the toggle link rifles chambered in 45 colt,you are going to Like that Henry rifle. Adios Sgt. Jake What Sgt Jake said. That load has a claimed velocity of 860 fps out of a 5" revolver, making it pretty near a dead ringer for the original loadings in .45 Colt. As long as your gun is in good condition, the links set up properly so they lock up when the bolt is closed, it'll run them 'til rapture quite happily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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