Alpo Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 If you have a motel - let's say 25 units - and attached to the motel is a restaurant with a bar. That's a motel with a restaurant and a bar. But let's say you have a bar. Two story building. Bar and grill. And on the second floor you also have let's say four rooms for rent. Not a no-tell motel. Not a rent by the hour hot sheet place. A legitimate "rent a room to spend the night". What would you call that? I've heard of lots of motels with restaurants attached or with bars attached. But aside from saloons in western movies I'm not hep on bars with rooms to let attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 The two similar places I used to stay when in town (McDermitt, NV/OR) back in the early '70's are now called "Inns". Saloon & grub on the ground floor with bedrooms to rent upstairs. Bathroom at the end of the hall at the White Horse. Gambling tables & slots in the front (NV side)...pool tables across the line in OR. IIRC, back then they were called "Hotel & Bar"s (BICBW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 bar and hotel[motel of you want] but when you combine the two thats how i would classify it , thats based on how you presented it of course , miss kitty might call it something else depending on how its rented out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Hotel: Several rooms for rent that are accessed via a central hallway. Usually more than one story. No provision to park outside the room door. May or may not include a restaurant and/or bar. Motel: Several rooms for rent that are individually accessed via an outside door. No central hallway. Almost always one story but occasionally two.. Parking is right outside your door. May or may not include a restaurant and/or bar. Inn. Much smaller than a Hotel or Motel. Consists of bar that also serves food plus a a few rooms for rent. atmosphere is significantly more intimate than a Hotel or Motel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 This ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 You have described a classic tavern. Unfortunately that term now seems to be used as a name for a bar that doesn't want to call itself a bar. I'd likely call it a tavern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Subdeacon Joe said: I'd likely call it a tavern caravanserai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 hours ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: The two similar places I used to stay when in town (McDermitt, NV/OR) back in the early '70's are now called "Inns". Saloon & grub on the ground floor with bedrooms to rent upstairs. Bathroom at the end of the hall at the White Horse. Gambling tables & slots in the front (NV side)...pool tables across the line in OR. IIRC, back then they were called "Hotel & Bar"s (BICBW). 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Inn. Much smaller than a Hotel or Motel. Consists of bar that also serves food plus a a few rooms for rent. atmosphere is significantly more intimate than a Hotel or Motel. 1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said: This ^^^^ +1 more. In PA, as a kid, there were several “Inns” in our county. Bar, Grill, Rooms upstairs. There were 2 “Tacerns” set up the same. One was called “Triangle Tavern”. I can’t remember the other. Triangle’s sign said “Triangle Tavern” with a smaller line that said “Inn - rooms to let”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Now a days bars refer to themselves as taverns so that they can charge more for for the same drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Roadhouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, Alpo said: caravanserai? Technically, yes, that works, because any traveler was welcome. But, at least to me, an caravanserai was more for commercial travelers and often served as an impromptu, short term trading establishment for those commercial travelers. Locals would come and try to sell any excess they had, and try to buy things they needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said: Roadhouse? That's a tavern that has special amenities upstairs, and maybe rooms to let by the hour for a quick businessman's entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Inn or hotel; I've stayed in more than one of these in small Nevada towns. Per Subdeacon Joe, in England many pubs, especially in villages and hamlets, have a few rooms upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 It's somewhat serendipitous that this subject would come up so soon after the USMC Birthday. Title: Tun Tavern. Caption: Replica of built for Sequin Centennial Phila, 1926 Description: Catalog #: NH 122509 Copyright Owner: Naval History and Heritage Command Original Creator: After this Year: 1920 Before this Year: 1929 Original Medium: BW Photo https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/NH-122000/NH-122509.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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