Three Foot Johnson Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Why are the contiguous states referred to as "the lower 48", when Hawaii is the southernmost state? "The lower 48" actually should exclude Minnesota and Alaska, not Hawaii and Alaska.
Dantankerous Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Maybe the term was coined before Hawaii became a state and it just stuck?
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I think the term existed before 1959
Festus G Lonetree Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Dantankerous and MMH nailed it down, that is exactly why. I'm curious as to why J Bar Binks thinks Minnesota should be excluded from the list of Lower 48 states.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 14 hours ago, DocWard said: Oh, you mean CONUS Wouldn't Alaska then be considered inclusively? It is on the continent. Guess that is splitting hairs though.
DocWard Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: Wouldn't Alaska then be considered inclusively? It is on the continent. Guess that is splitting hairs though. Nope. Quote CONUS = The 48 CONtiguous States and the District of Columbia or "the lower 48, as they're affectionately known to the Alaskans." OCONUS = Outside Continental United States Overseas = Any country or place beyond the CONUS. Alaska, Hawaii and the U.S. territories are considered overseas under the Space-A Regulation. http://www.spacea.net/faq/what-conus-oconus-and-overseas-and-why-do-i-care
Charlie Whiskers Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Festus G Lonetree said: Dantankerous and MMH nailed it down, that is exactly why. I'm curious as to why J Bar Binks thinks Minnesota should be excluded from the list of Lower 48 states. Probably because a part of the Boundary Waters Lakes system. A portion of it requires Minnesota residents have to go into Canada then out again by road to get into that "bump" of land that is part of Minnesota.
Three Foot Johnson Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Festus G Lonetree said: I'm curious as to why J Bar Binks thinks Minnesota should be excluded from the list of Lower 48 states. Yep, Charlie's on top of it - Minnesota is farther north than any state other than Alaska. Well, a little of it is anyway.
Sixgun Sheridan Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 19 hours ago, Assassin said: The conjoined 48. Well, California, New York and New Jersey are attached to us, and yet they have more in common with Cuba than the rest of the USA.
Noz Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: Well, California, New York and New Jersey are attached to us, and yet they have more in common with Cuba than the rest of the USA. but we don't claim them.
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