Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I support shotgun bras for women only. Now that would just handicap the lady shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I have never seen it referred to here but it has happened to me a time or two, snagging the shells with a revolvers hammer spur. This and the fact that anything worn at the belly button or slightly below 'will' slide down hill towards the feet and those waiting pistols. My holsters are somewhat (medium) high ride but on a belt worn low to help with the clearance problem. When the belt is placed just above the belly button, well suddenly moving up is now down hill and this problem is what Ill bet my spurs that most of the hub bub is about, not some long non existent bras. Though I personally would not wear bra style, I still think it would be very low priority on a long list of rules I would have considered back then. Remember, fer every rule you feel is important there are some of us out here who would think several of your choices would be eliminated by a rule in our version of the perfect world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 ... Though I personally would not wear bra style, I still think it would be very low priority on a long list of rules I would have considered back then. Remember, fer every rule you feel is important there are some of us out here who would think several of your choices would be eliminated by a rule in our version of the perfect world. Hi Bob, I would be on the list of folks who would favor the elimination of this rule. I just don't get it or the rule prohibiting securing bandoliers. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 The rule is there - if there are issues those in power can change the rules - but until then - abide by it. Simple and easy to do.. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenny Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I understand the situation perfectly, I had a gastric bypass way back in 94. In 96 they did a double hernia repair & an adominalplasty (sic). I don't have my natural one anymore and the replace one is cockeyed. WANNA SEE IT? I know I will not be asking where they are. Shenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Who is going to be the BB inspectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 PBT...probably the same person who touches the Pillsbury Doughman's belly. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 PBT...probably the same person who touches the Pillsbury Doughman's belly. GG Not that it would happen, but I don't think I would giggle if someone touched this doughboys belly. Well maybe, depending upon who she was.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Another problem with the call is how quickly a border line call can change almost instantly with just the slightest shift. It is similar to the thirty degree call on cross draws, you call it based on the way you see a guy and he shifts body position and suddenly it doesnt look to be quite as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey James SASS 85199 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 "ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television." .....out of the handbook. Obviously, this leaves a lot of room for interpretation, but it goes back to the intent of the game. A little bit off but I'm curious, with that new Harrison Ford movie "Cowboys and Aliens", can a be western guy use lasers? Whiskey James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 some of this discussion reminds me of a photo that was in the CC a couple years back...WB member...wearing his SG Belt...in a way that was not okie dokie. He obiviously had no idea what the intent of the game was/is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 "ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television." .....out of the handbook. Obviously, this leaves a lot of room for interpretation, but it goes back to the intent of the game. A little bit off but I'm curious, with that new Harrison Ford movie "Cowboys and Aliens", can a be western guy use lasers? Whiskey James Just exactly how did the cowboys wear their shotgun belts back in the old west or in B westerns? I haven't seen many. Maybe they did wear em high to support their backs when riding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I am surprised that the pictures have not shown up this time but someone(s) posted pictures in the past of pre 1900 shot shell belts being worn under the armpits. There was no doubt that the photo was of a dandy style sportsman, rather than a cowboy, law dog or bandit type though. What I have not seen yet is photo, or other, evidence of double shell pouches back when, guess we get to busy worrying about the wrong things sometimes! I think a better way to write/interpret the rule would be to just declare bra style as inappropriate and drop the belly button part. Most of us fattys have flattened out by the time we reach the bottom of the rib cage anyhows. Personally I think belt suspenders look somewhat dorky also but that might just become an expensive option for many if the shot shell belt issue becomes a hot issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hey! Can a feller have single or double shell loops attached (sew) or slides on suspenders ? Maybe a dumb idea, dorky to look at, maybe illegal, but doesn't hurt to ask - although I doubt I'd do it cause I love my Doc Noper belt. G (forward thinking )G ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Houston # 35508 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 http://www.sassnet.com/Downloads/2011ROMaterials/SASSHandbook-17-2011.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hey! Can a feller have single or double shell loops attached (sew) or slides on suspenders ? NO. Maybe a dumb idea, dorky to look at, maybe illegal Yes...yes... & YES. ...but doesn't hurt to ask - although I doubt I'd do it cause I love my Doc Noper belt. G (forward thinking )G ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Thanks PaleWolf Brunelle figgered as such I reckon GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Thanks PaleWolf Brunelle figgered as such I reckon GG ~ Yer welcome! BTW - It has always been the WB's position that a secured (e.g. tied down) bandolier is the same as a suspender...and illegal in that neither is on the list of approved methods for carrying ammo for stage reloads (which includes shotgun ammo). Reference the SHB link that JH posted...page 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey James SASS 85199 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Just exactly how did the cowboys wear their shotgun belts back in the old west or in B westerns? I haven't seen many. Maybe they did wear em high to support their backs when riding! I've actually only seen one pic of a shotgun best being worn. The Handbook doesn't give a history on how shotgun belts were worn back when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasspounder Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I wonder if shotgun shell belts were even commonly worn in the "way back when".. If you was gonna do somebody with a shotgun, what was in it probably would do the job especially if it was from a dark alley at night. A few shells in the ol' coat or vest pockets probably was sufficient for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Find as many pictures as you can from the earlier SASS days, say fifteen plus years, and see how big a problem it was. I have only seen one guy, I think his name was Deadly Redley(sp?), wearing bra style. Perhaps some who were shooting back then can dispute this BUT I am thinking it was probably enacted more in fear of it becoming popular than because it was ever common. My take is that it would be better served to outlaw bra style wear and create a rule of thumb for below the arm pits rather than use the belly button. Anyone ever had, or seen, pistol hammers catch the bottom of shotshells/loops when the top belt is worn to close above the bottom belt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchy Greg, SASS#71981 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 If there's ever a movement set afoot to thin out and simplify the rule book, that's the first one that should go. There's any number of pards out there, including Yers Truly who wear a shotgun belt above their regular pistol belt, which puts the shotgun belt just above belly button level. But, I expect pigs will fly before the SASS rule book gets purged of such nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Creek Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Maybe the rule should changed. The people who wear the shotgun "bra" need to get a belt that will fit around their belly button "area" not move it up their torso so it can still be buckled. Most would agree that one's chest measurement should be greater than their waist measurement. OK, that's in a perfect world and we are all getting older. So get a shotgun belt that fits around your waist and wear it in the general belly button area and not under your armpits. Under your armpits make you look like a dork that has out grown his belt and is unwilling to buy one that fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 With all the movement required during a match, picking up brass, setting targets and yes even sometimes occasionally at the shooting line, to get a belt that will stay at the peek of a large belly is almost impossible. Much akin to what happens with many of the guys with their gun belt, the changing of the body's shape will no longer support pistols at the top of the hips and once that belt starts down there is nothing to stop it. It is just easier to try and get the belt to lay at the top of the belly button but for some it does try to migrate from there but we are still talking only an inch or so for most. I do not know if my memory is slipping further or the rule has changed to be more restrictive recently, I thought it read the bottom of the belt at belly button and not actually referring to the shell bottoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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