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  1. Griff

    Don H.

    IMNSHO, depending on how often you'll be shooting, whether you'll be using the rifle for other uses, how serious you want to compete, whethher you prefer a rifle or carbine configuration the following might be considered: 1 - reloading WILL save you money. How quickly your investment will pay for itself will depend on how often you'll be shooting and how much your initial investment is. Reloading ain't rocket science, but it does require attention to details, best learned under tutelage of a mentor; but can be learned independently. 2 - The Rossi is generally regarded as a good gun, requiring work to be slick and dependable. It also lacks "go fast" aftermarket parts like the Uberti '73/66 do. 3 - A 24" octagon barrel is found by some to have it's inherent accuracy advantage more than offset by it's added weight. I find that front weight to aid offhand steadiness, but it is more mass to both start and stop moving. My compromise is a "short rifle", a bit heavier that a carbine, but "more maneuverable than the full length rifle. 4 - Lastly be very aware of magazine capacity, The vast majority of stages require 10 rounds, and you cannot start with a round chambered, except in extremely rare instances. So rare in fact, that I can only recall 1 or 2 times over the past 38+ years
  2. The smokeless powder I use to replicate BP loads in BP cartridges is Accurate XMP5744. It has a moderately slow burn and a more gentle pressure curve than most smokeless powders. I've used it 45 Colt, 45-70, .40-90SBN and .32-40. I first used it on the recommendation of Mike Venturino in my .40-90SBN. Since there's no published data with smokeless powders for this cartridge in any reloading manual; in discussions with MV, he suggested to use the same data as 45-70, as the case volume is similar, and like bullets weights are available. I did and found that velocities matched those attained with full loads of BP. Here's a screen shot of what QuickLoad predicts with 17 grains of 5744 behind a 255 grain bullet in the .38-55. As can be seen in the details it's predicts about 13,422 psi for approximately 1,370 fps from a 26" barrel. This level is just below the minimum load listed by Hodgdon on their website @17.3 grains for a predicted 18,400 psi for a velocity of 1,324 fps out of a 24" barrel. Their load data also shows a trim length of 2.075". Whereas QuickLoad shows a case length of 2.085". Also note that Hodgdon lists a COAL of 2.492" vs the QuickLoad length of 2.510". QuickLoad doesn't have a data of BP rounds, so a direct comparison can't be made. Since you don't know the date of your bbl, I also wouldn't recommend the use of any jacketed rounds, regardless of propellant. While I won't argue with any of the above comments, keeping the load close to the velocities achieved with BP and with a powder that has those loads in the realm of BP pressures, I wouldn't feel unsafe using this powder at those minimal load densities. I have an 1885 Highwall in .32-40 that I load with both BP and 5744. In it I load 15 grains of 5744 behind a 170 grain cast bullet and achieve nearly identical velocities as my BP loads at the same trim and COAL lengths. And while QuickLoad predicts higher pressures and higher velocities than what I actually achieve, it is not substantially more. While there are stories of folks blowing up guns with 5744, I've personally never witnessed same, nor has anyone of my acquaintance. Details are often sketchy, and in many instances, downright suspect. The Hodgdon website, while a wonderful resource, is often lacking data on older cartridges. Like my .32-40, the lightest bullet they list is a 196 grain, nor do they list any powders except Hodgdon's. I had to find my load data in an older Accurate powder annual manual or in Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook. Then again, if you're super cautious and really curious, there are a couple of non-destructive ways to determine the alloy of the receiver & barrel. Google "X-ray fluorescence spectroscopy".
  3. I usually get accused of remembering such stuff... such accusations obviously being misdirected!
  4. My son started shooting CAS in 1988 when he was on the cusp of his 10th birthday at monthly matches. He started out shooting his Mom's pistol, rifle & a Stoeger Uplander in 12 ga with 26" barrels to help with recoil, and the stock cut to fit. I loaded his shells a little lighter than mine, (very close to LNLR Winchesters now). Both rifle & pistol used 158 grain bullets. His Mom's rifle was a Rossi mdl 65 in .38/.457 loaded with .38Spls. In 1989 I got him is own Rossi, and slicked it up like his Mom's. The Rossi is a little less AOL sensitive than the Marlin as it has a positive cartridge stop, easing the lifter detent & ball lessens the propensity for it to throw cartridges too high (stovepiping), and shimming the right cartridge guide to help control carrier jump;; also aided by the heavier bullet. Marauder's Tuning Tips has articles with instruction for both makes of rifles. He won Jr. at his first EOT in 1990, finishing 2nd in 1991 to a 16 year old. By that time he was also running the timer at a couple local monthlies. He also won Jr. at the National Shootout in Raton 4 years running using that combination of firearms. (1991-1994). c: 1992/3, yea, he mighta been a little big for his age. The first time he beat me in a match was a proud day. As I'm sure other Dad's can attest!
  5. Dunna matter; PWB hath spoken: The .38 Special was designed and entered production in 1898. With the first handgun produced for the Cartridge in 1899. It was originally a BP round, but ammo manufacturers began producing smokeless loads after just a year of introduction.
  6. Y'all did note that PWB already posted that he's inquired of the ROC whether the threaded barrel will be an exempted external modification, right? You also shou'da noted that he didn't make any mention of the 9mm chambering. Ergo, if the 9mm is legal as a pistol cartridge, and rifles must be in a pistol cartridge, it stands to reason that 9mm will be legal in the rifle also. (Okay, not in Classic Cowboy/girl, but all other categories, fine).
  7. Yep, I agree with this. Whatever they were set on to dry reacted with the cleaner you used and didn't get rinsed well enough.
  8. Polish, and I mean mirror bright polish the chambers. Not just smooth, but shiney, like they're polished chrome bright. A quick jerk forward as you reach for the next pair and the hulls stay stationary, the left falls to the left of your hand & the right to the right You have to keep the barrels horizontal.
  9. I haven't, wouldn't in an original, and would so advise anyone else. Good plan on letting him have some real BP.
  10. This ↑↑↑ Although I remove the die from my Dillon toolhead and screw into my Rockchucker.
  11. As you adjust your dies, all of them, keep in mind that the threads are "coarse", meaning that it only requires small adjustments to make significant changes in the amount of flare (or bell in the venacular), seating depth or crimp. Here is a thread I created on another forum to show how I make a Adjustment for a Proper Rollcrimp.
  12. Sorry TM... but that pictured round looks neither fully seated nor showing any crimp at all. And Mike be only ½ right. With adequate neck tension, a 38 Spl, might not need a crimp in a revolver, but they don't have the combined weight of up to 8 rounds plus spring pressure pushing against that neck tension. Add in the hammer effect of both recoil and the movement of that column of cartridges in the magazine.
  13. I've run real BP thru my Dillon 550 since it was new in 1987, and the MEC 600Jr.
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