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Did not want to take the other thread any further afield.

 

Something I have great trouble with doing a web search is search engines don't seem to understand history. I was trying to find out how much British money was worth in American money in 1963. I could find 87 gazillion sites telling me how much British money was worth in American money, but only now. Not 60 years ago.

 

That's the problem I'm having here. It used to was, children could travel on their parent's passport. Little four-year-old Tommy did not need his own passport when I took him to Ireland to visit his grandmother. He flew on mine.

 

As I understand it, you can't do that anymore. All kids need their own passport. Down to little bitty babies, ALL kids.

 

So I was attempting to find out when that rule changed.

 

But any question - no matter how I phrased it - regarding children and passports always took me to sites telling me how I can get a passport for my kid. Which is not what I want to know.

 

So does anybody know when the rule changed?

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48 minutes ago, Alpo said:

I was trying to find out how much British money was worth in American money in 1963.

Here ya go: https://gbp.fxexchangerate.com/usd/1963-currency-rates.html

 

I did a search on “british and US exchange rates 1963”

 

I can’t find the info on when minors were required to have passports. 

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There's no bug out plan like 10k and a passport in a safe deposit box near the border.

 

When I travel solo with my only minor child these days I have a notarized letter from the wife saying she is aware and ok with our adventures

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13 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Here ya go: https://gbp.fxexchangerate.com/usd/1963-currency-rates.html

 

I did a search on “british and US exchange rates 1963”

 

I can’t find the info on when minors were required to have passports. 

You seem to have run afoul of the same problems I was having.

 

That site does not compare British money value to American money value in the year of our Lord 1963.

 

What it does is convert 1,963 British pounds to US dollars, today. Which is apparently $2,536.10.

 

This is the page that popped up when I followed your link.

 

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12 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Here ya go: https://gbp.fxexchangerate.com/usd/1963-currency-rates.html

 

I did a search on “british and US exchange rates 1963”

 

I can’t find the info on when minors were required to have passports. 

Children Now Need Passport When 13 - The New York Times

 

Approx Jan 14, 1978,  changes to the Immigration & Naturalization Act of 1952

 

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I wonder if they have changed it again?

 

Here's the thing. I am, as I frequently do, tearing apart a movie. The Parent Trap. The 1998 one.

 

An American guy marries a British girl and they have twin girl children. Then they get divorced, and they split the kids up, and he keeps one and she takes the other one back to London with her.

 

When the girls are 11 years old they meet each other and realize they are twin sisters and switch places so the California girl can meet her mother and the British girl can meet her father.

 

The California girl flies to England on the British girl's passport. Illegal.

 

When the mother realizes she has the wrong kid, she and the kid fly to California to switch back.

 

There's my wonder. Did they illegally fly to California with the California girl using the British girl's passport? Or did they legally fly with the little girl going to America on her mother's passport? Did that still exist?

 

In the link Dr Zook posted, it says children 13 and above need their own. But these girls are 11. But it also says 1974, and this is 1998.

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1 hour ago, Alpo said:

I was trying to find out how much British money was worth in American money in 1963.

Foreign Exchange Markets, January-June 1963

page #2 bottom right paragraph (pg #106 in the official publication)

 

During June, the Bank of England was able to pay off the $250 million of assistance received from foreign central banks earlier in the year. At midyear, spot sterling was quoted at $2.8009, and the discount on three-month forward sterling was equivalent to only 0.5 per cent per annum, after having been as 106 MONTHLY REVIEW, JULY 1963 high as 1.4 per cent late in March. Thus, sterling closed the first half of 1963 on a steady note.

 

Measuring Worth - Measures of worth, inflation rates, saving calculator, relative value, worth of a dollar, worth of a pound, purchasing power, gold prices, GDP, history of wages, average wage

 

The table(s) present the price of one United States Dollar.

United Kingdom, 1963 - 1963

$1 = 0.3571 British Pound

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4 minutes ago, Alpo said:

I wonder if they have changed it again?

 

Here's the thing. I am, as I frequently do, tearing apart a movie. The Parent Trap. The 1998 one.

 

An American guy marries a British girl and they have twin girl children. Then they get divorced, and they split the kids up, and he keeps one and she takes the other one back to London with her.

 

When the girls are 11 years old they meet each other and realize they are twin sisters and switch places so the California girl can meet her mother and the British girl can meet her father.

 

The California girl flies to England on the British girl's passport. Illegal.

 

When the mother realizes she has the wrong kid, she and the kid fly to California to switch back.

 

There's my wonder. Did they illegally fly to California with the California girl using the British girl's passport? Or did they legally fly with the little girl going to America on her mother's passport? Did that still exist?

 

In the link Dr Zook posted, it says children 13 and above need their own. But these girls are 11. But it also says 1974, and this is 1998.

I don’t have direct knowledge of this and not historical either, but…

 

I have seen that foreigners entering the USA on foreign passports the first time give fingerprints, no ink involved these days. If that were the case, the Cali girl would not be able to enter on the Brit passport.

 

Add that to your ponderances.

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Well this being 1998, I don't think they were doing that.

 

And even if they were, do foreign passports have fingerprints in them? So here I am from France and I enter America for the first time and they take my prints. What are they comparing them to? Or did they just keep a record?

 

If they just keep a record, they would have let the California girl into the country, but they would not have let the British girl out of the country. :lol:

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8 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

First time is a record, might also trigger a check against numerous databases.

INTERPOL was around since 1956 and in other forms since 1914...interesting side note -- it moved from Austria to Berlin in 1938 = WW2 [shut down] = reemerged in 1946 in Paris.  Interpol has 19 databases, including I-Familia, which helps identify missing persons,

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@Alpo if you scroll down to “1930s – 1971: WWII, the End of the Gold Standard the Bretton Woods Arrangement” on this sight it may explain why you can’t get exchange rates before 1971. 

It’s kind of interesting in a boring way…

 

https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/articles/1325/the-200-year-pound-to-dollar-exchange-rate-history-from-5-in-1800s-to-todays.html

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https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/currency

 

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If you scroll along the actual graph, it shows the value by month.

 

 

 

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My kid needed a passport in 1995 for a trip to Europe, had to get baby pictures at a passport photo place; that was fun. So for at least 30 years now. Good thing actually, would not want kids stolen here and just flown out on commercial flights.

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