Iron Monger Jimmy Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Howdy! Well now that my trapdoor sold I have the funds for a .45-70 lever gun. I do like the looks of the Henry H010BG....Being a metallurgist I am not at all "concerned" by the "brass" receiver..(It's not just "brass") as far as strength goes... But I do like the looks of it especially with the octagonal barrel. What can I say?? I am a bit of a magpie at times.. Any thoughts/opinions? Thank ya all kindly.. Iron Monger Jimmy SASS#5115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) Personally, I think they're uglier than sin. The one's I've handled seem clunky and ill-balanced. The loading system might be convenient, but reminds me of a child's .22. I'm not enamored of the Marlin either, I've seen far too many ruined by either neglectful or over-zealous reloaders... It, like the Henry are not the strongest of actions... IMO, if you're dead set on a lever action 45-70, either a smokeless era steel Winchester 1886, or the Miroku made Browning is the way to go. I'm not fond of the lawyer driven rebounding hammer safety of the Winchester marked Mirokus either. If I were adding a 45-70 into my stable, it'd be a 1885 from any number of makers, or a C. Sharps, or Shiloh, possibly even a modern rolling block. I already have a Browning 1886 in .45-70. The two Miroku 1885s I have are well built and well behaved rifles. (Read that to mean well balanced and accurate). You asked for opinions. That is the "G" rated version... Sailors can add their own favorite expletive where appropriate. Edited April 13 by Griff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I like the Cimarron 1886. It is a faithful copy of the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 The Henry action in 45-70, or 30-30, or 45LC, or 44mag, or 357mag, etc. is just a copy of the modern Marlin 336/1895. "Brass" frame or steel frame, it's just a copy of a Marlin action. An older JM Marlin 1895 in 45-70, especially the 26" octagon barrel model, before Remington took over production, or a Browning 1886 made in the 1990's is a far superior firearm. Yes, you will pay more for a used one of these than maybe a new Henry, but you will be getting a much better rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 The Winchester 86 may be a little stronger then the Marlin 95 but the Marlins handle the Buffalo Bore and Garret ammo designed for leverguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Monger Jimmy Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 (edited) Howdy!! I am reading your replies and pondering them over.. Seems that the Henry doesn't have that many fans out there..Interesting... As far as ruined rifles..I have seen way too many that had "problems" due to improper loads..several of which were catastrophic failures. Thankfully no one was seriously injured.. Still you have to be aware of limits as far as PSI and other factors or else you could wind up loosing fingers, an eye or worse... I don't "hot rod" any of my loadings...I go for accuracy and groupings not velocity for velocity's sake... Still pondering this... Iron Monger Jimmy SASS#5115 Edited April 14 by Iron Monger Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Monger Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Iron Monger You did not mention your intended use for a 45-70 lever gun. If you are looking for a easy handling 45-70 camp gun then a 1895 Guide Gun could fill that nitch. I have one in 45-70 and one in 450 Marlin. Both shoot well with 300 or 350 grain bullets and can be brutal with heavier bullets at full velocity. I also have an 1880s manufactured Winchester 86 rifle with 24 octagon barrel. It’s a bit on the heavy side and handles the 45-70 with ease. It also looks every bit a Cowboy rifle. I would have a hard time choosing between a new Winchester or Browning 86. It would come down to features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Monger Jimmy Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 Hello once again!! I am looking for something to punch paper, ring a few targets and take down pigs on occasion (we are getting "problems" with them here in Florida now..them and those pythons) I have to admit I do like the looks of that gun metal receiver.. For anything bigger than a hog I can always go to my .45-120 or my .338 Win Mag.. If I ever need anything bigger than those I have my double rifle in 12 bore...(that one HURTS to shoot). The Henry looks like a fun one to shoot though... Iron Monger Jimmy SASS#5115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) I absolutely love mine ! Edited April 14 by Rooster Ron Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I looked at the Henry in 45-70 not to long ago when I was searching for that caliber rifle. I also looked at Winchester,Marlin, and Italian clones. In my opinion the Pedrsolli was by far the nicest of the bunch. But their price point was outside my target. I settled on a Marlin 1895 and am pleased with it. When I looked at the Henry I noticed that it had a lever that rode up between the hammer and firing pin as the trigger was pulled. Some kind of safety device that added to the firing mechanism. That turned me away from the Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 The only gun that Henry makes that I like is the original style Henry rifle, but the price point is too high. I do have an original 1886 and a Cimarron 1886 in 45/70 and they are nice guns. Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It's not a 45-70. I like my 76 in 45 -60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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