Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Yesterday's Project...10G Black Powder is in my future! (Roll Crimp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Been doing 12ga roll crimps myself for a while now. Kinda self satisfying. Them 10ga are gonna be sweet! What's gonna be your stack mix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Post a video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 said: Post a video Will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, Presidio said: Been doing 12ga roll crimps myself for a while now. Kinda self satisfying. Them 10ga are gonna be sweet! What's gonna be your stack mix? No sure on load yet. Any ideas on a 2.75" load? I was given an 1883 REAL Colt Coach Gun receiver a while ago. I had a stock maker in Maine, make me some wood for it. I've been shooting 12G shells with Chamber inserts. But I wanted to do 10G shells and BP for quite a while now. A friend gave me a bunch of 10G shells so here we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Real nice shotgun. Did you do your own wood work on it? My average 12ga load is 40cc of fffg, a 7/8" fiber wad, the 12ga plastic wad cup with the base cut off, the rest is filled to about an 1/8" of the edge with #7 lead shot. Top it off with a overshot card and roll crimp. Note. I trim off the original crimp folds from the shell before reloading. Since you been doing 12ga loads already, might start with that, and work your test loads up or down to your pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Interesting video on this 1883... $300 in 1880s! Today that would be $3500 today! Only 7400 were made, and VERY few for the stage coach lines as Coach Guns.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, Rancho Roy said: No sure on load yet. Any ideas on a 2.75" load? I was given an 1883 REAL Colt Coach Gun receiver a while ago. I had a stock maker in Maine, make me some wood for it. I've been shooting 12G shells with Chamber inserts. But I wanted to do 10G shells and BP for quite a while now. A friend gave me a bunch of 10G shells so here we go! I'm using 120 grs of 1F or 2F and 1 1/2 oz of shot, but that's in a modern Spanish double that weighs about 12 1/2 pounds. Recoil is a big shove. In my older 10 gauges it's 60 grs of 1F or 2F and 1 1/2 oz of shot. With Remington hulls I was getting 4 or 5 loads per hull before they became unusable. Federal hulls didn't last that long. I use fiber wads for both loads. Rocky Mountain brass hulls will last almost forever, but aren't cheap. An alternative is to go to gun shows and look for people selling the older "antique" brass hulls. Most can be reloaded using large pistol primers, but make sure to examine the flash hole on the inside of the hull. I ended up with a couple that wouldn't accept 209 shotgun primers or large pistol primers. You'll also need to use 9 gauge fiber wads and cards for the "antique" hulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chantry said: I'm using 120 grs of 1F or 2F and 1 1/2 oz of shot, but that's in a modern Spanish double that weighs about 12 1/2 pounds. Recoil is a big shove. In my older 10 gauges it's 60 grs of 1F or 2F and 1 1/2 oz of shot. With Remington hulls I was getting 4 or 5 loads per hull before they became unusable. Federal hulls didn't last that long. I use fiber wads for both loads. Rocky Mountain brass hulls will last almost forever, but aren't cheap. An alternative is to go to gun shows and look for people selling the older "antique" brass hulls. Most can be reloaded using large pistol primers, but make sure to examine the flash hole on the inside of the hull. I ended up with a couple that wouldn't accept 209 shotgun primers or large pistol primers. You'll also need to use 9 gauge fiber wads and cards for the "antique" hulls. I've only used the Magtech brass with large Pistol Primer. Same load, only I use beeswax to seal the overshot card in. Betting the mosquitoes really hate being in the same county with you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Quote I'm using 120 grs of 1F or 2F and 1 1/2 oz of shot, This can get EXPENSIVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I've had a colt 1883 since I was a kid.Belonged to my dad. Largo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I have and used an original Winchester 1901 made in 1906, which is basically a 10 gauge version of the model 1887. My load is 60 grains of 2FFG over powder card, fiber wad(s) and 1 ½ oz of shot. It’s a nice load with plenty of boom and won’t knock you over. You can get plastic hulls here BPI both primed and unprimed. I’ve used the primed hulls with good results, but I’m a “one and done” guy with them. Is your hull trimmer homemade? It looks like a good design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Quote Real nice shotgun. Did you do your own wood work on it? No, I don't do wood...Don't have the patience! This stockmaker was recommended to me. So I drove up to Maine and dropped off the shotgun and the Macon rough cut walnut stock I'd bought for him to finish. He showed me some beautiful work. But he was now in his late 80s and that "Beautiful" work was done a couple decades ago. Unfortunately, I think the years have got to him. I had to do a whole bunch of chiseling, sanding and filing to get it to fit and for the SG to function. It's a shooter so it is what it is! Quote I've had a colt 1883 since I was a kid.Belonged to my dad. Do you still have it? 12g or 10g? Would love to see a picture or two.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rancho Roy said: This can get EXPENSIVE! I get about 55-57 shells per pound of powder. I usually just shoot it at state level or above matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Quote Is your hull trimmer homemade? It looks like a good design. Yes, I made it but copied one I saw on the internet. Not my design.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rancho Roy said: This can get EXPENSIVE! Yeah...that can be. But, for CAS, I figure you can cut that load down to 40 and still knock 'em down pretty easily. Should still have plenty of brimstone coming out the business ends. Hunting loads different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rancho Roy said: Yes, I made it but copied one I saw on the internet. Not my design.... Yup. Saw a set on eBay recently. Been giving them some consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Presidio said: Yup. Saw a set on eBay recently. Been giving them some consideration. There are a whole bunch of them available for short $$ on ETSY......See my link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Got two Colt hammer doubles. A 12 and a 10. Sold the Cimarron in center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: Got two Colt hammer doubles. A 12 and a 10. Sold the Cimarron in center. Now ya' done got me drooling again, Warden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Look at the freak'n "lumber" on that first one!!!! Beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Can we expect to see you with that 10g at the Boil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: Can we expect to see you with that 10g at the Boil? As long as my reloading supplies show up before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 A short video on my Colt 10 gauge. I did some repairs. The barrels don't match the gun. I had to do some fitting. The wood has obviously been replaced but is very well done. It's a higher grade with engraving. I shot it in one match held on New Year's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 Fantastic! Thankd for sharing thst with us! She’s a beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just my way of doing it . And yeah, I ain't much good at making movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Almost forgotI also have a 87 in 10ga.May have to get some shells & try it out. Largo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 If anyone has a 10 side by side with 36" barrels, I sure would like to talk with you I shoot about 120 g BP with 1 oz of shot in 2 1/2" brass shells from Rocky Mountain Cartridge. I have some 3 1/2" brass on the way. Now that should be fun!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted September 29, 2023 Author Share Posted September 29, 2023 Some folks wanted to see the case cutting tool in action.... https://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/things-that-go-bang/1882-colt-sxs-shotgun/1695989579774.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Works better than the one I got from eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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