Rancho Roy Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 My Ruger Vaqueros are converted to half cock with no transfer bar.....but still use a spring loaded firing pin located in the frame. Has anyone ever removed the firing pin and located it on the hammer like a REAL colt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Well, No, haven't seen that. I suppose it could be done with enough money/machine tools to throw at it. But . . . . why bother?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Well, No, haven't seen that. I suppose it could be done with enough money/machine tools to throw at it. But . . . . why bother?? To remove yet one more area of lost energy as the hammer has to transfer force to the firing pin and the firing pin to the primer.....also, to remove one more point of potential failure......and most important....It would be different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Ah well Roy, I don't know if it would be worth the effort to eliminate the minuscule lost energy of a frame mounted Firing Pin. I also don't see much of a threat of potential failure in the Ruger design. I do however, really go for the idea it would be different. Really different. Fun different. Still be a gob of work though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Ah well Roy, I don't know if it would be worth the effort to eliminate the minuscule lost energy of a frame mounted Firing Pin. I also don't see much of a threat of potential failure in the Ruger design. I do however, really go for the idea it would be different. Really different. Fun different. Still be a gob of work though. I love work...on guns! I might try it at some point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 Colorado Coffinmaker.....Are you going to be at EOT? I'd like to say hello..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastern Tenderfoot, SASS# 15682 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 What? You drinking again. If not maybe u should , relaxes your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Eastern Tenderfoot, SASS# 15682 said: What? You drinking again. If not maybe u should , relaxes your brain. Just a little tutt before dinner! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the purpose of reducing lost energy is to allow for lighter springs. At some point the springs will be so light the shooter will outrun them. So although this could be fun to play with the process of building I wonder whether you would actually get any increased functionality from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Captain Bill Burt said: I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the purpose of reducing lost energy is to allow for lighter springs. At some point the springs will be so light the shooter will outrun them. So although this could be fun to play with the process of building I wonder whether you would actually get any increased functionality from it. I agree, my revolvers are now down to 2 pounds hammer draw....this is quite light. Mostly, I just like messing with stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caladisi kid Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 HHHMMMM..... adding weight to the hammer will slow it down .... BUT ..... by cutting out the extra metal in the hammer, via the light hammer colt 1911 style, you could, then.....drilling out the frame for the longer than normal firing pin, then.........so on and .... etc........ PS....don't forget to use hollow wire to reduce spring back time!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Anything that works and is legal (Laws and Rules) is fine for game guns. Always works for Real Guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, Caladisi kid said: HHHMMMM..... adding weight to the hammer will slow it down .... BUT ..... by cutting out the extra metal in the hammer, via the light hammer colt 1911 style, you could, then.....drilling out the frame for the longer than normal firing pin, then.........so on and .... etc........ PS....don't forget to use hollow wire to reduce spring back time!!!!!! Not interested in "Lock Time" (Hammer Speed)....but might have interest in Lightened Hammer Draw while shooting two hands..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretless Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Altering your Ruger seems like an expensive and time consuming way to get a Pietta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 They are your guns. Do whatever you want to them. I sold my Ruger's and bought these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Mister Badly said: They are your guns. Do whatever you want to them. I sold my Ruger's and bought these Why do you still have those pointy things out on the end of the barrels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Sorry, I live in Massachusetts….Piettas and Ubertis are illigal to purchase…..the only SAA we can buy new is Ruger…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grass Range Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Do it. They are your guns. Let us know how it works out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Why do you still have those pointy things out on the end of the barrels? Welllll, those are my short pistols. Believe it or not, I might traditional Saturday at Oak Ridge. I haven't done that since 2019. Even in practice. Cross draw of course. Using my double barrel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 I think I found a clapped out Ruger NM for cheap.......Hopefully I can buy it and spend some time with the milling machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Rancho Roy said: I think I found a clapped out Ruger NM for cheap.......Hopefully I can buy it and spend some time with the milling machine! Knowing you it will be pretty awesome when you get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Knowing you it will be pretty awesome when you get through. Or a complete disaster and I won't tell anyone about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 48 minutes ago, Rancho Roy said: Or a complete disaster and I won't tell anyone about it! Oh we're going to follow up to see how it went for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Hey Roy!! No. Won't make EOT. I'm recovering from a real nasty fight with COVID. I won. But just barely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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