WTC

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

Stage starts with the rifle which is staged on the table...shooter picks up the rifle , racks it & an emty flies out !!

I was the TO & let the shooter complete the the stage..yes I was probably wrong, if it had been a live round I would have called stop.

End result  was a SDQ for the previous stage , the same as given for empties in the pistol.

What say ye ?

 

PS..Apparently the rifle  [73 ] had jammed  on the previous stage, was said to have been cleared at the ULT  but obviously not, for what ever reason  an MT was still in the chamber !

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

Correct call was made...SDQ on previous stage for "Failure to adhere to loading and unloading procedures."

 

[Grizzly Dave]

Yup.

 

 

[Equanimous Phil]

Don't have the SHB easily at hand (on the phone), but what would be the call if it happened on the 1st stage (after shooting a warm up stage or something)? I guess SDQ for the current/1st stage? 

 

Equanimous Phil

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

1 hour ago, Equanimous Phil said:

Don't have the SHB easily at hand (on the phone), but what would be the call if it happened on the 1st stage (after shooting a warm up stage or something)? I guess SDQ for the current/1st stage? 

 

Equanimous Phil

 Pretty sure it's a no call if happens on the first stage.

[Marshal Chance Morgun]

"End result  was a SDQ for the previous stage , the same as given for empties in the pistol."

 

He had empties in the pistol, too? 

Without calling anyone out, a friendly reminder at the next pre-shoot safety meeting would be in order

[Goody, SASS #26190]

4 hours ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said:

 Pretty sure it's a no call if happens on the first stage.

Unless it's the second day of a two day match. Then the SDQ is applied to the last stage shot on first day.

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

8 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said:

Unless it's the second day of a two day match. Then the SDQ is applied to the last stage shot on first day.

 

NO...the "retroactive" SDQ only applies to stages shot the same day.

REF: SHB p.28

[Goody, SASS #26190]

6 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

 

NO...the "retroactive" SDQ only applies to stages shot the same day.

REF: SHB p.28

Did that change recently? Or am I mistaken all together?

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

2 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said:

Did that change recently? Or am I mistaken all together?

 

That is not a recent change. 
IIRC, it has never been applied otherwise.
I referenced my ROC archives back to 2008.
 

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

Quote

Competitors arriving at the designated loading area with uncleared firearms after completing a stage within the same day will be assessed a Stage Disqualification penalty on the previously completed stage.

SHB p.28

[Marauder SASS #13056]

Since PaleWolf already answered:

 

Let's vote on it! 

 

[Major Crimes]

1 hour ago, Marauder SASS #13056 said:

Since PaleWolf already answered:

 

Let's vote on it! 

 

 

and its unanimous  

[Goody, SASS #26190]

10 hours ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

 

That is not a recent change. 
IIRC, it has never been applied otherwise.
I referenced my ROC archives back to 2008.
 

I guess my rememberer don't work as good as it used to.

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

13 hours ago, Marshal Chance Morgun said:

"End result  was a SDQ for the previous stage , the same as given for empties in the pistol."

 

He had empties in the pistol, too? 

Without calling anyone out, a friendly reminder at the next pre-shoot safety meeting would be in order

No there were no MT's in the pistol..my meaning was you treat rifle & pistol  with the same penalty..a SDQ for the previous stage.

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

Thanks for the input..the question has been answered..please close this post..thanks.

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

46 minutes ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said:

Thanks for the input..the question has been answered..please close this post..thanks.