multi use water treatment question

[Trigger Mike]

the question about rice got me to thinking.  I have chickens that lay eggs.  the eggs sometimes have poop on them.  let's say it is a time of disaster and water is short with none to waste.  the water you have needs to be boiled.  If you boiled an egg that had poop on it in the water needing to be treated would the boiling make it safe to drink afterwards to wash down the egg?  

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

I believe there is a minimum time required to boil it.  I would want to distill any such water.  in my virtual still if the disaster was not such that gas was not available.

[Barry Sloe]

The boiling water would disinfect the egg shell.  Now the water is contaminated.  Set it up as a still/evaporator.  Catch the water vapor as it boils off.  Now you have good water.

 

BS

[Tennessee Trapper Tom]

4 minutes ago, Barry Sloe said:

The boiling water would disinfect the egg shell.  Now the water is contaminated.  Set it up as a still/evaporator.  Catch the water vapor as it boils off.  Now you have good water.

 

BS

Didn’t mean to hit the 

laugh button. I totally agree with you, or filter and treat the water

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

You can unlaugh a post

 

dipping a egg in boiling water is not enough to make the shell safe and longer than a dip begins to cook the egg. In USA eggs are washed at the producers. This removes the protective coating called the cuticle. Then the eggs require refrigeration to prevent other pathogens from entering the egg. If SHTF and you don’t have refrigeration, don’t wash the egg until you are ready to use it.

[Smoky Pistols]

3 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

You can unlaugh a post

 

dipping a egg in boiling water is not enough to make the shell safe and longer than a dip begins to cook the egg. In USA eggs are washed at the producers. This removes the protective coating called the cuticle. Then the eggs require refrigeration to prevent other pathogens from entering the egg. If SHTF and you don’t have refrigeration, don’t wash the egg until you are ready to use it.

^^^^^ That right there is good to know!  The cuticle thing--I already knew that boiling water would cook an egg!

[Tennessee Trapper Tom]

3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

You can unlaugh a post

Learn something everyday. Thanks

[J-BAR #18287]

Eggshells are porous.  Bacteria can enter an egg even if the eggshell is intact.  That is the reason eating raw eggs or undercooked eggs is not a good idea.  Salmonella is pretty common in bird eggs. Egg processing/packaging establishments that are USDA inspected must include a bactericide in the egg wash water.  So it’s best to reduce contamination at each stage of the process;  get the shell as clean as possible before cracking the egg open, then cook thoroughly to eliminate bacteria that got inside.  Which is a really long way of saying you can’t get something clean with dirty water.

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

5 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

You can unlaugh a post

 

dipping a egg in boiling water is not enough to make the shell safe and longer than a dip begins to cook the egg. In USA eggs are washed at the producers. This removes the protective coating called the cuticle. Then the eggs require refrigeration to prevent other pathogens from entering the egg. If SHTF and you don’t have refrigeration, don’t wash the egg until you are ready to use it.

My wife raised chickens and sold the eggs, (wouldn't believe how many she would pick in a day). Health Stores and locals would purchase her brown eggs. Wiping them with a cloth was all that was needed. You are correct, wash them, and you will have to refrigerate them. In helping her pick the eggs out of their nest, I never once seen poop on any. They themselves kept their nest clean while in them to lay.

We would let them out in the morning and they scattered around the pastures and fields, then as the sun set they would slowly come back to their pens before it got dark. She raised over a hundred.  MT

[Marshal Hangtree]

Why not just crack the egg into the boiling water?  Voila'!  Poached egg!  Save the water for tomorrow's eggs.

 

But seriously, if you're that short on water, I'd just scramble the egg or fry it in some bacon grease.

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

Just remember, boiling water for drinking purposes once water reaches the boiling point 212 degrees, it becomes safe to drink, (wait for it to cool down though). All pathogens will be killed off once boiling point is reached. But, boiling will not remove any chemical toxins. One thing to remember were the water comes from or what stream it is taken from and not near a dump site.

Now the question on poop from an egg, or dirt clumps, etc. or even after boiling if it looks dirty. One can and probable filter it, strain it. Can be a T shirt folded, or even take charcoal brics and pour the water over them to drain into a container.

Some of this I remember from survival school training decades ago.  MT

[Trigger Mike]

good stuff.  sometimes our chicks lay eggs with dried poop on them.  I'd like to let them roam but along with 3 dogs that have discovered a taste for them, we have hawks and owls and I have seen owls during the day so i keep them in their pen.  during an emergency our most likely source of water would be a pond fed by a neighbors pond up the hill.  His dam is busted so I get a good bit and rarely get far below full during the summer.