Subdeacon Joe Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Flew from New York to Chicago in 1960 via Flying Tigers Airline in a Connie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Connie was probably the most beautiful airliner ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It was that day. Great flight as I recall. Passengers were all well behaved also. But they all dressed the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Heck of a crosswind! Glenview NAS has been closed for some years now. Used to drive by it quite often. They had P2V Mercator patrol bombers and F9F-6 fighters. I remember having to dodge a couple of the latter flying into to one of the local airports, mainly Palwaukee in a light plane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Plasters, SASS#60943 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I remember my dad referring to that type of landing as "bringing it in like an elevator" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat iron mike Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 That's pretty good rudder work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 You have to head into the crosswind component on approach, and then kick out the "crab" at the last second. Also, holding like a Chinese (Wun Wing Lo) helps, but also causes a slip that will increase the rate of descent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 She's a beauty alright. Would have loved to have flow her. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 You have to head into the crosswind component on approach, and then kick out the "crab" at the last second. Also, holding like a Chinese (Wun Wing Lo) helps, but also causes a slip that will increase the rate of descent. Depends on the slip. The forward slip is used to increase rate of descent without increasing airspeed as would happen by pointing the nose down. The sideslip is for landing in crosswinds, but does not increase the rate of descent. Side slipping for landing is generally performed on short final, and preferred over the kickout method as it provides a more stable approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Flimshaw Sass# 73310 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 That's pretty good rudder work Should be, the damn thing's got three of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hand Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Both the Navy and AF used them as the EC-121. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_EC-121_Warning_Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Flimshaw Sass# 73310 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Both the Navy and AF used them as the EC-121. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_EC-121_Warning_Star Used to be one at Camarillo Ca. now at Chino, it had been sitting there for so long no one was sure it would actually fly, but it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Both the Navy and AF used them as the EC-121. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_EC-121_Warning_Star in the 1950s, the Navy variant was designated the RV7. My dad's ECM/SIGINT squadron VQ-1, flew the super connies in the late 50s from Iwakuni, Japan and later from Atsugi. At that time, dad flew the Douglas A3D Skywarrior, Lockheed P2V Neptune and Martin P4M Mercator. Speaklng of which, a bit of trivia for a previous poster. The P2V was called the Neptune and built by Lockheed. The P4M Mercator was built by Martin, which was the losing bidder on the Navy contract for a twin engine patrol plane. While the Neptune had twin piston engines and jet engines in separate pods, the Mercator had twin piston engines and jet engines nestled in the same nacelle (look closely at nacelle under the wing). In order to help pay Martin for its development costs, the Navy ordered 39 planes, most of which went to VQ-1. Lockheed built several hundred, some of which are being used today as air tankers to fight forest wildfires. Images below are Mercator and Neptune, respectively. The PR designation shown on the tail represents VQ-1 whose call sign was "Peter Rabbit." I don't know what squadron is LC, but the plane is representative of the type my dad flew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hand Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Notice the P-2 has no gun turrets, and a MAD boom which the P4M lacked. The Navy version of the B-24, Navy designation PB4Y-2, notice the single tail. http://ww2db.com/images/50f47f8f40629.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Flimshaw Sass# 73310 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Many of the Neptunes went into service as water bombers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Notice the P-2 has no gun turrets, and a MAD boom which the P4M lacked. The Navy version of the B-24, Navy designation PB4Y-2, notice the single tail. http://ww2db.com/images/50f47f8f40629.jpg That's cuz they didn't use the P2Vs for ferret missions as they did with the P4M. Link doesn't work at my end, but here's an image of a P4Y my dad flew as a Hurricane Hunter (VJ-2) out of Jacksonville, FL in the early 50s. In addition the single tail, note the extended fuselage. On the B-24, the cockpit was barely ahead of the props. It was a beast and reportedly took a lot of strength to fly, but he seemed to like it and P2s as much, and perhaps a teeny bit more, than the big jets like the A3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Many of the Neptunes went into service as water bombers Cool video. My son saw a lot of these in action when he was a wildfire fighter. Amazing to think his grandfather flew them 60 years ago and they're still a workhorse today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancho Roy Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 During the Cold War, in the 60s, the constellation with a huge radar dome on its back would fly low over my house to land at the local airport every few hours, day and night. What a noise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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