Rancho Roy Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I just saw this on the internet and thought I'd share:Rumor control: Did the Dept. of Homeland Security recently request to purchase 21,600,000 rounds of handgun ammo?5:13 PM 02/26/2013inShareOn February 5, 2013 the Department of Homeland Security issued a “Solicitation/Contract/Order for Commercial Item” for ammunition to be purchased and delivered to the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico. The ammunition being purchased is “Commercial Lead Training Ammo” — or CLTA, in government speak.There are three components to the order:1. .40 caliber, 165 grain jacketed hollow point rounds2. 9mm, 115 grain jacketed hollow point rounds3. 9mm, 124 grain ball ammunitionOn February 7, three sources — the Examiner, The Blaze and InfoWars – claimed that the DHS was adding 21,600,000 rounds of ammunition to its stockpile. The next day, Investors.com reported the 21,600,000 round purchase by DHS. The Daily Caller has reviewed the purchase solicitation and has determined that those reports are wildly inaccurate.Section 20 of the solicitation outlines the “Schedule of Supplies/Services,” which details the purchase for each of the three components. The first two components, .40 caliber and 9mm 115 grain jhp rounds, specify 100,000 rounds to be priced per 1,000 rounds. The third component, 9mm 124 grain ball ammo, specifies 40,000 rounds to be priced per 1,000 rounds.The incorrect calculations that brought reporters to the 21.6 million number looks like this for each component:1. .40 cal. 100,000 rounds x 100 quantities = 10,000,000 rounds2. 9mm 115 grain, 100,000 rounds x 100 quantities = 10,000,000 rounds3. 9mm 124 grain ball, 40,000 rounds x 40 quantities = 1,600,000 roundsTotal = 21,600,000 roundsThe problem with the equation is that the wrong numbers were used to calculate the delivery. The error in reporting occurred because the authors mistakenly failed to recognize that the delivery was to be priced per 1,000 rounds.Here are the correct calculations:1. .40 cal. 100 quantities of a 1,000 round unit = 100,000 rounds2. 9mm 115 grain, 100 quantities of a 1,000 round unit = 100,000 rounds3. 9mm 124 grain ball, 40 quantities of a 1,000 round unit = 40,000 roundsTotal = 240,000 roundsTo directly answer the rumors: Did the Department of Homeland Security just request to purchase 21,600,000 rounds of handgun ammo? No, not by a long shot. They purchased 240,000 rounds. That amount is equivalent to just one round per employee of the Department of Homeland Security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I just saw this on the internet and thought I'd share: Rumor control: Did the Dept. of Homeland Security recently request to purchase 21,600,000 rounds of handgun ammo? 5:13 PM 02/26/2013inShare On February 5, 2013 the Department of Homeland Security issued a Solicitation/Contract/Order for Commercial Item for ammunition to be purchased and delivered to the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico. The ammunition being purchased is Commercial Lead Training Ammo or CLTA, in government speak. There are three components to the order: 1. .40 caliber, 165 grain jacketed hollow point rounds 2. 9mm, 115 grain jacketed hollow point rounds 3. 9mm, 124 grain ball ammunition On February 7, three sources the Examiner, The Blaze and InfoWars claimed that the DHS was adding 21,600,000 rounds of ammunition to its stockpile. The next day, Investors.com reported the 21,600,000 round purchase by DHS. The Daily Caller has reviewed the purchase solicitation and has determined that those reports are wildly inaccurate. Section 20 of the solicitation outlines the Schedule of Supplies/Services, which details the purchase for each of the three components. The first two components, .40 caliber and 9mm 115 grain jhp rounds, specify 100,000 rounds to be priced per 1,000 rounds. The third component, 9mm 124 grain ball ammo, specifies 40,000 rounds to be priced per 1,000 rounds. The incorrect calculations that brought reporters to the 21.6 million number looks like this for each component: 1. .40 cal. 100,000 rounds x 100 quantities = 10,000,000 rounds 2. 9mm 115 grain, 100,000 rounds x 100 quantities = 10,000,000 rounds 3. 9mm 124 grain ball, 40,000 rounds x 40 quantities = 1,600,000 rounds Total = 21,600,000 rounds The problem with the equation is that the wrong numbers were used to calculate the delivery. The error in reporting occurred because the authors mistakenly failed to recognize that the delivery was to be priced per 1,000 rounds. Here are the correct calculations: 1. .40 cal. 100 quantities of a 1,000 round unit = 100,000 rounds 2. 9mm 115 grain, 100 quantities of a 1,000 round unit = 100,000 rounds 3. 9mm 124 grain ball, 40 quantities of a 1,000 round unit = 40,000 rounds Total = 240,000 rounds To directly answer the rumors: Did the Department of Homeland Security just request to purchase 21,600,000 rounds of handgun ammo? No, not by a long shot. They purchased 240,000 rounds. That amount is equivalent to just one round per employee of the Department of Homeland Security. Wow.. DHS has alot of employees. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 They also ordered 2500 APC's, 20 Chinese style "killing vans", two dozen guillotines, 500,000 coffins, and 50 portable Baskin-Robbins stores. It's true, I read it on the Interwebs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Big Al #3195 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 CAn i voluntear to work at the baskin Robbins Stores.... I just love me a double scoop of Rocky Road and Cherrries Jubilee ice cream.... I got so eggcited that i just plane forgot how to spill............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 They also ordered 2500 APC's, 20 Chinese style "killing vans", two dozen guillotines, 500,000 coffins, and 50 portable Baskin-Robbins stores. It's true, I read it on the Interwebs. Now J Bar, you know that's just not true..........the guillotines are out of stock and on backorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 OK, ya caught me - I made up the part about the guillotines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I thought we already beat this horse to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I thought we already beat this horse to death. oh hell no it made a slight move so it is alive and well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Wack it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 They also ordered 2500 APC's, 20 Chinese style "killing vans", two dozen guillotines, 500,000 coffins, and 50 portable Baskin-Robbins stores. It's true, I read it on the Interwebs. Well, it it was on the internet, it must be TRUE! Will those portable Baskin and Robbins be coming to MY neighborhood any time soon? Do thos guillotines have picatinny rails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 They were supposed tomsend me a million rounds. But I haven't heard back from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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