Subdeacon Joe 28,532 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Mossberg 464 Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 17,181 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Urrp! Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,683 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I am still trying to understand and accept the in line black powder rifles for hunting. Some things just do not make muster on the that is neat category. IMNSHO But then again, nobody ask for my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 28,532 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Urrp! Like it that much, do ya? I was looking for information about Mossberg's Glock style trigger when I found.....that. Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 28,532 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 I am still trying to understand and accept the in line black powder rifles for hunting. Some things just do not make muster on the that is neat category. IMNSHO But then again, nobody ask for my opinion. The in-line ignition concept goes back to at least the early 1800s. The problem then was the blowback right into the shooters face. The modern versions, basically a bolt action with a front stuffer barrel, is for the hunters who want to shoot during black powder season,but don't like anything about black powder except that it gives them more time in the field. Same thing, sort of, for the substitutes. People who want to "shoot black powder" but don't like black powder. The only saving thing, in my eyes, about the subs is that they don't have the same storage requirements as black powder. Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,683 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 The in-line ignition concept goes back to at least the early 1800s. The problem then was the blowback right into the shooters face. The modern versions, basically a bolt action with a front stuffer barrel, is for the hunters who want to shoot during black powder season,but don't like anything about black powder except that it gives them more time in the field. Same thing, sort of, for the substitutes. People who want to "shoot black powder" but don't like black powder. The only saving thing, in my eyes, about the subs is that they don't have the same storage requirements as black powder. I guess I am just a purist when it comes to graceful black powder guns. And yes, I have problems with the substitutes for ignition. But they are your guns, so shoot what you want. Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 8,156 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Mossberg 464 Needs a big loop lever, a bayonet attachment, and a pistol grip (ala Tommy gun) at the front. Maybe a folding bipod long enough to use the lever, too. Then it would be truly ugly POS. Link to post Share on other sites
Sneaky Gun Runner SASS 79775 0 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 BMC I saw a couple of months back. I am sure you will appreciate it, but possibly not agree with it either. Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,683 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 You are correct. I do not agree with it. I think I had best not share my opinion on that one. Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 28,532 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 I guess I am just a purist when it comes to graceful black powder guns. And yes, I have problems with the substitutes for ignition. But they are your guns, so shoot what you want. I'm with you on that. That's kind of why I don't much care for the Scary Black Rifles. No elegance and grace to them. Needs a big loop lever, a bayonet attachment, and a pistol grip (ala Tommy gun) at the front. Maybe a folding bipod long enough to use the lever, too. Then it would be truly ugly POS. No, Rod, it is truly ugly now. Your additions would make it spectacularly ugly. BMC I saw a couple of months back. I am sure you will appreciate it, but possibly not agree with it either. I had to laugh. Our ancestors were making shots like that with their Springfields and Enfields and Sharps. Not often, mind, but still making them. But I bet you don't see that guy making that shot every day either. Long range accuracy with a muzzle loader isn't anything new. Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 17,181 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I am still trying to understand and accept the in line black powder rifles for hunting. Some things just do not make muster on the that is neat category. IMNSHO But then again, nobody ask for my opinion. I will never accept them! Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 17,181 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Like it that much, do ya? I was looking for information about Mossberg's Glock style trigger when I found.....that. I'm afraid it's put me off my feed. Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 17,181 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Needs a big loop lever, a bayonet attachment, and a pistol grip (ala Tommy gun) at the front. Maybe a folding bipod long enough to use the lever, too. Then it would be truly ugly POS. AND A LASER! Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 28,532 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm afraid it's put me off my feed. You need some buttermilk and cornbread, Bob. Fix you right up. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 602 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 They are selling...so.... It is ugly, and not for me....but I like the adjustable stock so that a variety of family members (like my small wife and daughter) can shoot it. GG ~ Link to post Share on other sites
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 3,811 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 In my country we cain't own semi-auto black rifles .... .... this should fill that "hole" here nicely. ....... but we ain't allowed to use firearms fer selfdefence neither .... Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,683 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 In my country we cain't own semi-auto black rifles .... .... this should fill that "hole" here nicely. ....... but we ain't allowed to use firearms fer selfdefence neither .... What kind of a nit wit idea is that, and who thunk of it? Maybe a visit with a baseball bat would be in order. Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 17,181 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 In my country we cain't own semi-auto black rifles .... .... this should fill that "hole" here nicely. ....... but we ain't allowed to use firearms fer selfdefence neither .... I was just thinking "Damned ugly but...maybe there's a need for these things in some places". Link to post Share on other sites
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 1,045 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That thing just looks butt ugly! Guess they're trying to bring the lever gun into the 21st century Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 8,156 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 That thing just looks butt ugly! Guess they're trying to bring the lever gun into the 21st century I'd rather take the 21st Century back to the lever gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Apache Hawk 60642 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I WANT ONE ! ! ! Wonder what dim boys wood say ifin' I shoulded up on da forin' line wif one of dim bad boys ! lol Link to post Share on other sites
Samcro 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is that one of them California legal AR15s? Link to post Share on other sites
Apache Hawk 60642 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 BMC I saw a couple of months back. I am sure you will appreciate it, but possibly not agree with it either. I know folks dat shoot out to a 1000 yards wif some accurate mind you, wif a front stuffer. And I have hit da target and made it go "CLING" wif a front stuffer at 700 yards ! So der ! lol Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. James H. Callahan 2,594 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 As a buddy of mine used to say it's Fugly. You figger it out. JHC Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 602 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 As a buddy of mine used to say it's Fugly. You figger it out. JHC Fudge Ugly? GG Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,683 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Why shoot an ugly gun? Maybe it is the only one you have? I think my .30-06 looks a lot nicer. Can you believe that I sold a Marlin .30-30 Texan with a short barrel. What a dummy I am. Of course, in my defense it was years ago and I was not very savvy. Come to thunk on it, I still ain't! Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 8,156 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Why shoot an ugly gun? Maybe it is the only one you have? Then why in hell did you deliberately go out and buy an ugly gun in the first place? Serves you right if the other guys...the ones with pretty guns...beat you up at recess. "CHARLIE SHOOTS AN UGLY GUN! CHARLIE SHOOTS AN UGLY GUN! CHARLIE SHOOTS AN UGLY GUN! NANNER NANNER NAAANNER!" Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,683 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Then why in hell did you deliberately go out and buy an ugly gun in the first place? Serves you right if the other guys...the ones with pretty guns...beat you up at recess. "CHARLIE SHOOTS AN UGLY GUN! CHARLIE SHOOTS AN UGLY GUN! CHARLIE SHOOTS AN UGLY GUN! NANNER NANNER NAAANNER!" I forgot what I was going to say. Oh yeah, It is what I do, Forty Rod. Besides, Beauty is only surface deep. Ugly goes all the way to the bore. I told that to a young lady once. Only once. Link to post Share on other sites
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