Come On Christmas Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I am lazy. I know they is calculators for this, but I figure you done the math for me. I use 45 grains of 1f, 12 gauge AA winchester hulls, 1 1/8 oz. Reclaimed Shot, Western Orange Wads, and CCI primers. Craven the Hunter AKA Shameless Womanizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August West, SASS #45079 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Primer = $0.03 Powder = $0.13 Shot = $0.11 Wad = $0.025 Or -- $0.295 per round Or -- $7.38 per box of 25 (this assumes the following: No shipping, no taxes, Primers @ $30.00/K, Powder @ $20.00 per Pound, Shot @ $40.00 per 25# bag, Wads @ $12.00 per 500, Hulls for free) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come On Christmas Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 Your a prince! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Dude, SASS # 51223 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 WOW! BP for $20.00 per pound ? That seems very high to me. I bought my last lot for some where around $10.00, thats Goex 3F. If you buy by the 25# case the price comes does down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come On Christmas Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 WOW! BP for $20.00 per pound ? That seems very high to me. I bought my last lot for some where around $10.00, thats Goex 3F. If you buy by the 25# case the price comes does down. Yeah, Just off the top of my head I am thinking I paid $16 delivered when I bought 10, but then what is my time worth? I just needed an estimate cause I made up 100 shells for a buddy o mine. Shameless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Primer = $0.03 Powder = $0.13 Shot = $0.11 Wad = $0.025 Or -- $0.295 per round Or -- $7.38 per box of 25 (this assumes the following: No shipping, no taxes, Primers @ $30.00/K, Powder @ $20.00 per Pound, Shot @ $40.00 per 25# bag, Wads @ $12.00 per 500, Hulls for free) If you paid $20.00 for a lb of BP, your got screwed. I can have it to my door for under $14.00 a lb(3F Goex). Use reclaim shot for SASS/CAS and that will cut you shot costs in 1/2. FWIW: plastic wads can/do melt in the bore with BP. Look into using fiber wads. At 45gn(weight)of BP per load(that's "lite" for 12ga, BTW)you will only get 155 rnds from a lb of BP. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 For shot shell use the cheapest stuff available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 45 grs?? Can you even hear it go off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Last batch I did was 0.18 per round. That was with Goex and plastic wads. Add about .07 per on my loads with a fiber wad column. The 0.18 are as cheap as I have ever gotten. I have been as high as 0.28 when some component prices were up. Like others have said, in this game, you can get away with reclaimed shot. And as long as the primer goes bang. And your price is entirely driven by your component cost. Last Goex ffg I got was a lot closer to $10/lb than it was $20. I was a 'fiber wad only' guy for a long while, too, but have recently gone to plastic. There is more gunk that comes out when you are cleaning (the plastic melted in) but it is no more dificult or time consuming to clean than with fiber wads. I have also found that, when the MD decides to put out some farther SG targets, that your pattern will hold just a bit tighter with plastic shot cups. I realize that we are not supposed to put load data on the wahr, however, I suppose it would be ok to say that my load workup is with 7/8 oz of shot. Say your shot is $40/25 lb. At that price, you save 0.025/round by dropping your projectile load. That is about 0.63/box. Savings go up 25% if you are buying shot at $50/lb retail (tax and all included). I have shot 7/8 oz loads from day 1 and have not had an issue with any knock down or flyer. For pricing contrast, my smokeless rounds are around 0.16 per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Dude, SASS # 51223 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I use 45 gr's in brass shells, 3F that is. And all the KD's fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Are you kidding? Home made black powder shells are PRICELESS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come On Christmas Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 Could be I was way conservative so no one would blow it cause of me . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Phil DeGrave SASS #55202 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 To me blackpowder loads of any kind are like gasoline. Doesn't matter how much it costs, when you're running low, fill er up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Last time I figured this It cost me around .20 a round. 63 grs. of 2F, 1 1/8 oz. shot and plastic wads, the orange ones. They go BOOM and shoot out flames! LOVE IT! Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come On Christmas Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Pdawg turned me on to using Fg Cannon Powda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box Herder, SASS 73857 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 70 grains of Goex 2F and a little shot- Makes the posse deeth when they go off----------- great fun dammmmmit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Your a prince! And your still lazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I can have it to my door for under $14.00 a lb(3F Goex). Grits - got ya beat ... Powder Inc's Skirmish - 25 or 50 lb. lot: $11.80 per lb. Price includes shipping and hazmat fee. It smokes - it sparks and is dirty as all get out. I really believe it is Chinese fire cracker powder. But packs a wallop with a 83gr square load. Oh, I forgot to mention - it goes BOOM every time! And my friend, if you find a cheaper powder price, don't even try a one up'ish. I got plenty of Fg and FFG powder that cost me $2.42 a pound. It's the Meteor stuff and worth GOLD! I proved it is the last of the Curtis's and Harvey production out of Ardeer, Scotland - vintage 1973. A fella on the ASSRA forum sent me some of his 1955 vintage Austin Powder Company FFg. The container is marked Curtis & Harvey Powder. I did a side by side comparison to the Meteor - a perfect match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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