Marshal Max Henry Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I have a Rossi 92 with a KNJ action but i got spoiled useing a friends shorts stroke can i do anything at all that i c doto to shorten the stroke on my rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Lead Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 These actions do not lend themselves to much more than smoothing the action and you have had one of the best in the business do the job. The positioning of the lever arm in the bolt of the '92 means that there is little that can be done as far as short stroking is concerned. The Marlin and 66/73 have re-engineered parts manufactured for them. I have seen shooters with a 92 outperform some very quick S/Stroked shooters. Enjoy it. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 If Nate's done the work, you've gone as far as you can go with the '92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Woodrow Cahill, SASS # 54363 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 You've got yourself a good rifle worked on by the best '92 man in the business. Don't sour yourself by coming down with shortstroke envy. I slicked up my '92 per Nate's DVD, and it ran smooth and fast. Some days it ran faster than I could keep up. Shoot it and enjoy it. It'll be the most trouble-free gun in your cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Max Henry Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Thanks guys I had tore adjust but its starting to work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 With NKJ tuning you are there,enjoy your fine rifle. Adios Sgt. Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 A new shooter friend of mine now owns my 92. Selling it made a good down payment for my first "race ready" 1873. A 92 is a solid gun, but it's no 73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 can i do anything at all that i c doto to shorten the stroke on my rossilooks like Henry is trying to say ... Can I do anything to shorten the stroke on my Rossi? Henry, the short stroke lever rifles using a left and right link connected to the breech pin are entirely different than John Moses Browning design for the Winchester 1892. To facilitate the increased pressures generated by smokeless powders, he designed the '92 with 2 locking lugs connected to the finger lever that fit into slots cut in the breech bolt ... which rides in channels cut in the receiver. There is absolutely no way to 'short stroke' the mechanical design of the Winchester 1892 or any of the current production replicas Send your Rossi to Nate or do a kitchen table 'slick job' of the parts with his DVD. Then lube your action with Eezox. If I can drop the finger lever with my little finger on mine and win 100 & 200 yd speed matches against short stroked W73' ... you have a good chance also with your Rossi PS, you might also want to check your word punctuations and spellings before you make a post! Your grammar leaves much to be desired and to be able to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I've been researching the Rossi's lately and what I have found from talking to Kiowa and many many others is that he is the "specialist" and has devoted several years into making them the best rifle it can be. So withthat said if you want anything else your gonna have to shell out well over a grand to get a 73. BTW... if ya want to seel the Rossi then holler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Larry, SASS #58429 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I've been researching the Rossi's lately and what I have found from talking to Kiowa and many many others is that he is the "specialist" and has devoted several years into making them the best rifle it can be. So withthat said if you want anything else your gonna have to shell out well over a grand to get a 73. BTW... if ya want to seel the Rossi then holler Yep Poppy, I've never heard anything but praise for a Nate KJ action job on a '92. Well, I hope to see and shoot with you and Bunny this Saturday at the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The short stroke kits currently available are for the 66 and 73 guns. It won`t work in the 94 and 92 actions. The 66 and 73 guns are big massive framed guns and have lots of slack. The purpose of the short stroke kits is to remove that slack and direct it toward the lever throw. The 92 and 94 action are more compact, less slack. They can be reduced some but it requires many hand made parts $$$$ for very little gain and when done are very ammo specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I love my 92 done by Nate. I have not shot that many matches but I have never had a he cup with the 92 and I have never been to a match that at least one of the fast three did not have some screw up.I cant out run the 92 so I will keep shooting it in fact I just bought one off the wire that was said to have a Nate job but it did not, but it will as soon as I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 A new shooter friend of mine now owns my 92. Selling it made a good down payment for my first "race ready" 1873. A 92 is a solid gun, but it's no 73. Ta Daaa!! Jefro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre #23212 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I have a Rossi 92 with a KNJ action but i got spoiled using a friends shorts stroke can i do anything at all that i c do to to shorten the stroke on my rossi One of the greatest hidden benefits of the short-stroke is that you can complete the lever cycle without moving the upper-arm...which in turn moves the shoulder. The shoulder moving back and forth as you pump away on that lever, causes your sights to jump around. And eventually the rifle-butt can start slipping, causing you to shoot high and misses. Being able to work the lever all the way, only moving the forearm and wrist is very beneficial to shooting faster!! The 92 Rossi achieves this with shorter LOP. I can lay my Rossi, Butts even on my 1866 carbine super-short-stroke...the 66 gains about 1/2 inch at the top of the lever. And about an inch at bottom of the lever...but that is taken up with wrist action not arm action or reach. My 1866 rifle with 1st gen SS is shorter overall because the rifle has shorter LOP than carbines. My 105 yr old crescent butt stock Marlin 1894 has a shorter LOP and short action and beats them all!! The 92 is a handy little rifle and gives you some of the SS benefits because or it's design. As long as you can cycle your lever without moving your shoulder your getting a large part of the Short-stroke advantage. Most folks would benefit highly with a shorter LOP on their rifles!! But cutting all that fancy metal work off, stops most folks...but there's two ends to every rifle stock!! BH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I wish my Rossi cycled like my Henry Golden Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I have a slicked-up Rossi '92 that only feeds .357's now. When it is good, it is real good. When it is dirty, well.... There ain't much else that will get my blood pressure up like removing a misfed cartridge form a '92 action while the clock ticks. I recently picked up a '73 and had it slicked (no short-storke since I also shoot original Winnies). This '73 cycles about the same as the '92 (for me), but the '92 is just quicker to the shoulder and handier around the stage obstacles. Finding the right bullet profile and length for the '92 will also enhance the speed and reliability since it feeds cartridges at an angle, unlike the '60/'66/'73 actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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