El Muerto Negro Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 Hello, This weekend I saw what I thought was a burr. It turns out there is a door, plug what have you. I assume it covers a pin on my SKB. I never noticed it before. Well it's never opened before. What is the fix and how concerned should I be. I'm off to Nationals in a few and this is my main sxs. Any help is much appreciated. I did finish the match nut ran my finger across it before each stage and had no trouble. Thank you EMN
Jim Brown Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 It looks like it has failed. The small Pin Guide Pin for Ejector (fits left or right)- is screw in to the Ejector. and the right ejector has failed where ti guide pin screws in. Looking at SKB website they appear to have both parts in stock. https://www.skbshotguns.com/parts-tools/japan/side-x-side/12-ga-parts Part number 605324 and 605359
Black Angus McPherson Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 You guys have got me confused. The only holes I see in that picture look like chambers and a firing pin hole. What "door, plug, what have you" are you talking about? Angus
El Muerto Negro Posted September 16, 2024 Author Posted September 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, Black Angus McPherson said: You guys have got me confused. The only holes I see in that picture look like chambers and a firing pin hole. What "door, plug, what have you" are you talking about? Angus
El Muerto Negro Posted September 16, 2024 Author Posted September 16, 2024 15 minutes ago, Jim Brown said: It looks like it has failed. The small Pin Guide Pin for Ejector (fits left or right)- is screw in to the Ejector. and the right ejector has failed where ti guide pin screws in. Looking at SKB website they appear to have both parts in stock. https://www.skbshotguns.com/parts-tools/japan/side-x-side/12-ga-parts Part number 605324 and 605359 I see, I guess I'll order the parts. Looks like it will need to go out to get fixed.I assume it could totally fail at any moment. Not what I want to hear a few weeks before Nationals. Is there a safe temporary fix? EMN
Jim Brown Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, Black Angus McPherson said: You guys have got me confused. The only holes I see in that picture look like chambers and a firing pin hole. What "door, plug, what have you" are you talking about? Angus On the left side of the picture On the Right Ejector is a spot- I will say it looks like a bite mark. The pin at that point that comes in contact with the bottom of the ejector is the guide pin. Or at least that is what it appears to me.
Black Angus McPherson Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, Jim Brown said: On the left side of the picture On the Right Ejector is a spot- I will say it looks like a bite mark. The pin at that point that comes in contact with the bottom of the ejector is the guide pin. Or at least that is what it appears to me. OK, I see the "bite mark" on the right extractor, I see the guide pin, I don't see any problem with any of it. If something is broken I can't see it in the picture. I still don't know what "door, plug, what have you" covering a pin is being talked about. A really curious Angus
Jim Brown Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, Black Angus McPherson said: OK, I see the "bite mark" on the right extractor, I see the guide pin, I don't see any problem with any of it. If something is broken I can't see it in the picture. I still don't know what "door, plug, what have you" covering a pin is being talked about. A really curious Angus I do not know if it will work for you. But Click on the picture It will open up then click on it (for me 2 more times) to get a magnified view. The bite mark looks like torn metal.
Kingsley Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 TIG or braze it then grind/polish it down. Easy fix, for a problem that may not exist. But it will give you a good piece of mind. Cardboard Cowboy
Jim Brown Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 20 minutes ago, El Muerto Negro said: I see, I guess I'll order the parts. Looks like it will need to go out to get fixed.I assume it could totally fail at any moment. Not what I want to hear a few weeks before Nationals. Is there a safe temporary fix? EMN I am posting this again as I did not see it show up You can Contact Fast Eddie (SKB Mechanic) and see what he has to say. HIs contact info is on Scarlett's website. https://bulletsbyscarlett.com/883-2 Fast Eddie did tell me he is planning on going to land run.
Black Angus McPherson Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, Jim Brown said: I do not know if it will work for you. But Click on the picture It will open up then click on it (for me 2 more times) to get a magnified view. The bite mark looks like torn metal. Thanks. Magnified it looks rough. In the original picture it looks like more of a manufacturing blemish that was not fully polished out. I feel much better, now. I'll be able to sleep tonight. Angus
Kingsley Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 Also be aware that these parts are not drop in and do require fitting. You're much better off welding/brazing the one you have. Also your ejectors have been welded together, at least that's the way it looks in the picture. This way they act like ejectors off a 100 series, which is a single piece. The 200's are two individual ejector's. Just ordering part 60539 will not be an easy fix. CC
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 The holes, bite marks, are holes left from grinding through the threads on the pin that goes into the action. Nothing you need to do unless the pin that goes into the action comes loose. Then it can be welded and reshaped. Johnny Meadows
El Muerto Negro Posted September 16, 2024 Author Posted September 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L said: The holes, bite marks, are holes left from grinding through the threads on the pin that goes into the action. Nothing you need to do unless the pin that goes into the action comes loose. Then it can be welded and reshaped. Johnny Meadows Johnny, Thus is a new development. Seems like weld and reshape may be the thing. Or do you suggest to leave it? Thank you, Eric
El Muerto Negro Posted September 16, 2024 Author Posted September 16, 2024 48 minutes ago, Kingsley said: Also be aware that these parts are not drop in and do require fitting. You're much better off welding/brazing the one you have. Also your ejectors have been welded together, at least that's the way it looks in the picture. This way they act like ejectors off a 100 series, which is a single piece. The 200's are two individual ejector's. Just ordering part 60539 will not be an easy fix. CC Ty, i think this is what I will do
Cholla Posted September 16, 2024 Posted September 16, 2024 For those that are viewing this on a smartphone.
Jim Brown Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 Based on what Jonny Meadows I can see now that that is just the threads from the guide pin rotating slightly. ?? Remove the extractor or by comments if you just run finger across it and it rotates back in position. Would adding Loctite and let it set up prevent the rotation
Dr. Zook Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 If the men who craft the art of gunsmithing agree, may I suggest Loctite #290 (green- wicking). If used it on a loose carbine rear site base and it hasn't moved since. Usually utilized for post assembly by wicking down the threads.
El Sobrante Kid Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 If Johnny Meadows says it is not an immediate concern... consider flushing the area with acetone or alcohol, let it dry, make sure the threads are rotated into the correct position, then put a drop or two of either blue, or green, loctite into the gap. Dr. Zook beat me to it!!!
El Muerto Negro Posted September 17, 2024 Author Posted September 17, 2024 Thanks for all the advice. EMN
Shawnee Hills Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 Agree that it appears that the pin has rotated. Recommend removing the extractor, unscrewing the pin, clean both threads with acetone or brake cleaner, and reinstall with red Loctite flush with polished surface. The rough surface will disappear when it’s in the correct position. The other option is to TIG weld it and reprofile the piece but that only works if you have the equipment.
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 Somebody sure like his Dremel...
Oklahoma Dee Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 Hay Champ. If you need a backup, I have several you can chose from and may borrow, during the Nationals.
El Muerto Negro Posted September 17, 2024 Author Posted September 17, 2024 6 hours ago, Oklahoma Dee said: Hay Champ. If you need a backup, I have several you can chose from and may borrow, during the Nationals. Thanks Dee, I have a back up but this is my preferred one. EMN
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