Currahee Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Actually, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. No pattern here except it always seems to happen while shooting a stage. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I had problems with mine not cocking, also doubling and found operator error. I was not holding the SG pulled into my shoulder enough causing the doubling and not releasing the trigger to allow it to reset. YMMV Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 Thanks, Don't think it is recoil related as it will fail during dry fire. As to trigger reset: the problem is not firing the hammer, but cocking the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Are you sure it is not cocking rather than failing to release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Are you sure it is not cocking rather than failing to release? Not cocking, have taken it down to check. Also in takedown: the cocking lever will fail to catch when pressed down on a 2x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Remove the Buttstock and give the insides a good cleaning. dang autocommie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 26 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Remove the Burt’s tick and give the insides a good cleaning. Worst case of Otto Krect ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 i got what you said ....after a second on study ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Take the stock off and open the gun and carefully watch the internal parts. Do it several times. When you open the gun do both hammers move to the rear? Only one not catch? Same one every time? 6 hours ago, Currahee said: Also in takedown: the cocking lever will fail to catch when pressed down on a 2x4. If both hammers are moving back but one side is not catching the sear then the cocking rod is too short or the cocking lever has worn. A typical fix is to put a little weld on the front of the cocking lever and file it to shape. This does not require disassembling the action. Replacing the cocking rod entails taking down the gun. If you have not done it before it can be a PITA to get the hammers back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack SASS#87384 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 With the stock off, open the action all the way and observe both hammers. If the sear doesn’t set, reach in with a prying tool and manual cock the offending hammer a bit more, if that causes it to set, you have most likely a wear issue with either the cocking lever, or the metal in the forend that it acts against. If that doesn’t make the sear set, the gun will need further disassembly to find the reason. If that’s the case, STOP SHOOTING IT until it is repaired. I’ve seen a piece of shot smashed into a hammer not h that caused a similar issue but also sometimes would fire when the action was closed (not good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 Thanks Larsen and Stack. I will open it up and try your suggestions. If that doesn't work, it goes to a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Stoeger calls them "hammer cocking pins" and one of yours has worn to the point that it is now too short to push the hammer back far enough for the sear/pin to engage the corresponding part of the hammer. As Larsen and Smokestack said, operate the action with the buttstock removed so that you can watch what happens when you break open the gun and you'll see the problem. It may be that on some occasions you are not breaking open the gun 100% fully, and that only breaking it open 100% fully will reliably cock both hammers. That would explain why you are having a problem only sometimes, and typically when you are trying to go fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 Thanks all, gun sent to Lefty Wheeler. He'll figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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