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Winchester Model 97 Barrel question


Asa Smith

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I have a Norinco parts gun, an older coyote cap special edition.

Will the barrel fit an original Winchester made in 1950 (take down model)?

Nimrich lists a reproduction barrel for the winchester but they are out of stock....

The take down model may be different, are they?

 

Please reply if you have real experience with this issue.

Thanks 

Asa

 

PS: the barrel on my original has a perfect bore and hate to cut it down, that is the reason i am wanting to replace barrel.

May want to use it on geese someday and would like to be able to return it to its original condition. ;)

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"No.  The Norinco won't work and even Winchester barrels require some special fitting."

Not entirely correct.  Some of the very first norinco 1897's were made with american standard threaded barrels. They are the 26" barrel length and had weird serial numbers like 0000236. They were not marked as a coyote cap product and there were only 500 of them produced and only with the 26" barrel. Other than these 500 none of the other Norinco brands were american standard threads, all are metric.

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1 hour ago, Asa Smith said:

Will the barrel fit an original Winchester made in 1950 (take down model)?

 

 

Even if by a miracle someone found one of the early Norinco barrels it would not fit.  All the Norincos were solid frame.  The OP wants to put the barrel on a take down Winchester.

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If you order a replacement barrel, be sure to order the related pieces, such as the collar/adapter and get the shims to set the headspace and tighten the assembly.

 

 I did this a few years ago to make up a second barrel assembly for a really nice original ‘97 to shoot in SASS and still keep it original.  It took a little adjusting to get the second barrel to just swap easily and the shim was really necessary.

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I have an original  take down barrel but you need the barrel extension to make it work on your gun .

 Woodfox

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5 hours ago, Asa Smith said:

PS: the barrel on my original has a perfect bore and hate to cut it down, that is the reason i am wanting to replace barrel.

May want to use it on geese someday and would like to be able to return it to its original condition. ;)

 

While I understand the sentiment; they made MILLIONS of 97 shotguns.  

There are still lots and lots of them sitting dust covered in closets.

Instead of worrying about what you "may want" to do someday - make the gun work its very best at what you want it for today.

 

Chop the Winchester for cowboy.

Put a giant bead on it and enjoy it.

 

Take your Coyote Cap "parts gun" and sell it - set the proceeds aside; then, when and if you decide to use it on geese someday - you can find one of the many longer barreled 97's that still exist OR take those funds and buy a different pump shotgun of better design, with superior reliability (which as much as I love 97's is pretty much ALL name brand pump shotguns made after the 97) and buy a shotgun specifically suited for geese.

 

And there are many wood and blue steel choices:

Winchester Mdl 12

Ithaca Mdl 37

Remington 870

Mossberg 500/ 590

 

It's your firearm and your money - but saving an item for a tomorrow that may never come is never as satisfying as using something that makes you happy today.

 

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There are difficulties even with Winchester barrels depending on when the gun was manufactured.  Though I have not seen one recently, barrels do show up on the market.  When I had my '97 cut it was fair / medium condition, if it had been excellent I wouldn't have cut it.  Your gun, but were I in your situation, I'd make haste slowly and see what turns up.  You can always cut it or get it cut.  When I got mine done, I left an extra inch over minimum.

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There is no need to cut a 97's barrel.   My primary may match shotgun is a 30" full choke 97.   My main secondary is 30" Parker, F/F.   

Long barrels are cool, and they don't hinder your ability to negotiate stages, acquire targets, or do the stuff you need to do.

 

I do have a 20" 97 and a 19" Parker, but they are not used very often.   I like the long barrels much more.

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4 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

 

 

 

Even if by a miracle someone found one of the early Norinco barrels it would not fit.  All the Norincos were solid frame.  The OP wants to put the barrel on a take down Winchester.

You are correct. I missed the op comment that it was fr a takedown model :blink:

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