Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 I would like to load some 185 grain Hornady XTP hollow points for 45 Colt woods loads. These would be used mainly in a Uberti 73 rifle as a "fired once in a while load" as opposed to a steady diet thing (the 73 is a cabin gun). Hodgdon doesn't list 185 grain bullets of any kind in their reloading data for 45 Colt. I don't want to wreck the action of my rifle so I want appropriate loads, but I do like the performance of the XTP bullets. Can anyone help? I currently have Bullseye, Clays, 700-x, Unique and 231 on hand. Thanks!
linn county ranger,sass#34021 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Why not use 200 gr. https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol. Or you may have to get a Honady reloading manual.
Roscoe Regulator Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 said: I would like to load some 185 grain Hornady XTP hollow points for 45 Colt woods loads. These would be used mainly in a Uberti 73 rifle as a "fired once in a while load" as opposed to a steady diet thing (the 73 is a cabin gun). Hodgdon doesn't list 185 grain bullets of any kind in their reloading data for 45 Colt. I don't want to wreck the action of my rifle so I want appropriate loads, but I do like the performance of the XTP bullets. Can anyone help? I currently have Bullseye, Clays, 700-x, Unique and 231 on hand. Thanks! I don't see any Hornady listing for an XTP 45 Colt bullet below 240 grain (9th Edition or website). My supply of 45 Colt rifle ammo is Leverevolution (225g)
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, linn county ranger,sass#34021 said: Why not use 200 gr. https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol. Or you may have to get a Honady reloading manual. 'Cause 185 and 250 are all I can find around here, and I don't want to pay shipping on that small an order. And I'd really like to not spend the money on a loading manual for a one off load experiment if I can keep from it. I guess I'm just cheap...
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, Roscoe Regulator said: I don't see any Hornady listing for an XTP 45 Colt bullet below 240 grain (9th Edition or website). My supply of 45 Colt rifle ammo is Leverevolution (225g) Thanks for the info.
Canton Chris Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Hornady makes a 225 gr for 45 Colt. The 185 gr is basically for the 45 acp, so the bullet doesn’t have a cannelure. Take care that the crimp you put on it is sufficient.
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, Canton Chris said: Hornady makes a 225 gr for 45 Colt. The 185 gr is basically for the 45 acp, so the bullet doesn’t have a cannelure. Take care that the crimp you put on it is sufficient. I use a Lee Factory Crimp die on all of my reloads. Thanks!
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 said: I use a Lee Factory Crimp die on all of my reloads. Thanks! Charlie, thats all good and well. But, here is something you need to consider: Factory crimp dies for .45 Colt might be set to crimp in a 'crimp groove' or cannelure. Using a bullet with no cannelure and crimping with a die used for Cannelure's will distort your bullet. It will basically create a slight 'curve' in its shape. And although I don't know for sure, but it could give you a much tighter crimp because in effect, it will be biting into the bullet. In such a case, your pressure will also increase. Just a thought. ..........Widder
Roscoe Regulator Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Canton Chris said: Hornady makes a 225 gr for 45 Colt. The 185 gr is basically for the 45 acp, so the bullet doesn’t have a cannelure. Take care that the crimp you put on it is sufficient. The 225 is not an XTP like he wanted, but yeah, it would mirror the Leverevolution ammo.
Cayuse Jack, SASS #19407 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 When I loaded 185gr Golden Saber JHP’s in 45 Colt I seated them so that the crimp was just above the ogive of the bullet. That way no damage to the bullet when crimping. Unique powder starting load 8.5gr max load 9.5gr
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Posted April 24, 2020 Thanks for your input, folks. I will definitely keep it all in mind as I'm sneaking up on this project.
linn county ranger,sass#34021 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 Just get the 250's then, the 185 are .451 and 250 are .452 for the 45 colt. Hornady doesn't list a load for the 185.
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Posted April 25, 2020 After loading a few last night and playing with OAL, crimp, etc. I’ve pretty much decided to save the 185’s for ACP loads and get a different weight for the 45 Colt rifle loads. The 185’s cycled fine but I’m just not happy with the whole picture. Thanks again for all of your input, folks.
Bad Bascomb, SASS # 47,494 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 I've had good results with 200 gr rnfp and 5.5 Bullseye for SASS use in rifles. Lighter bullets weren't as good. Good luck on project.
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Posted April 25, 2020 As I said, this is for a cabin rifle rather than SASS. Thanks!
Michigan Slim Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Wish you were closer. We could cast up four different styles and try them all.
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 My 45 Colt defense rounds are 250 gr XTP with a full charge of Unique. .350 gr in the .450 Marlin for bears .
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