Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 During the time I was growing up and dad was a Naval officer (post WWII - Cold War era) tattoos were in my recollection, only seen amongst enlisted personnel. They were pretty much a taboo for career officers at that time. Perhaps there were exceptions, like those who came up through the enlisted ranks, as opposed to those whose career began as a junior officer. These days tattoos are common across wide swaths of our population. Are they considered a non-issue today for officers? Are they even addressed in dress and grooming standards in today’s military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: During the time I was growing up and dad was a Naval officer (post WWII - Cold War era) tattoos were in my recollection, only seen amongst enlisted personnel. They were pretty much a taboo for career officers at that time. Perhaps there were exceptions, like those who came up through the enlisted ranks, as opposed to those whose career began as a junior officer. These days tattoos are common across wide swaths of our population. Are they considered a non-issue today for officers? Are they even addressed in dress and grooming standards in today’s military? it really depends on the mood of the higher ups. Honestly in height of OEF/OIF, didnt matter then force reduction so no this or that . Then at one time all had to be photographed and inspected , and no new tattoo's . Then last year they relaxed the policy again trying to get recruitment numbers up I am not sure what the current status is . Officers probably a little more regulated on the visible ones , but even allowed some neck tattoos which well wont make past certain ranks for you having them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Navy is not military, but can one be a sailor and not have a tattoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 51 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Navy is not military, but can one be a sailor and not have a tattoo? Dad was part of the brown shoe Navy, which is way different from the black shoe Navy. Even their (air crew) uniforms were green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 They are much more widely accepted, even among officers. We are still expected to have fewer tattoos and in more discrete locations than our enlisted counterparts, but it's still generally accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Navy is not military, but can one be a sailor and not have a tattoo? What do you mean “Navy is not military”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Oh. Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Pat Riot said: What do you mean “Navy is not military”? My apology if you were offended. I was using the strict definition of military as soldiers. A sailor might be offended at being called a soldier. A looser definition of armed forces would include the navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: My apology if you were offended. I was using the strict definition of military as soldiers. A sailor might be offended at being called a soldier. A looser definition of armed forces oilfield include the navy. Oilfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Oilfield? Danged Otto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I came back from liberty in Singapore and stopped in the Wardroom. The Captain was there. He asked if I had gotten all my shopping done. Yes sir. Then I rolled up my sleeve and showed him my new tattoo. He shook his head and walked out. But, as a Chief Warrant Officer, I think it was almost expected. BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: My apology if you were offended. I was using the strict definition of military as soldiers. A sailor might be offended at being called a soldier. A looser definition of armed forces would include the navy. I see. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, I got a little steamed. Sorry about that. I should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I remember when I was in the Navy a few of the Line Officers aboard had tattoos but they were not visible when in uniform. We had a Chief Warrant Officer that had forearm tattoos. Gunner Harm was his name. Great guy. I stood many many watches with him. We did have an LDO (Limited Duty Officer) that had a couple of forearm tattoos. An LDO is an officer that was enlisted then once they became a Chief Petty Officer they can go into a program to become a “technical officer” and the highest rank they can achieve is Lieutenant. Our LDO was the absolute biggest ***hole that I encountered in the Navy. I think if he would have fallen overboard I don’t think even the officers aboard would have sounded an alarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: My apology if you were offended. I was using the strict definition of military as soldiers. A sailor might be offended at being called a soldier. A looser definition of armed forces would include the navy. Pard, In my 29 years of military service, I have NEVER heard anyone define "military" in this manner. "Military" refers to all branches of the Department of Defense. "Soldier" is specific to the Army, "Marine" to the Marine Corps, "Airman" to the Air Force, "Sailor" to the Navy, and "Guardian" to the Space Force. But *ALL* of them are military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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