As promised: 460 Rowland video w/10mm

[Widder, SASS #59054]

TN Williams and I made a video to compare the 460 Rowland and the 10mm in relation to

recoil and power information....... along with the 6" uncompensated and 5" compensated

460 Rowland.

 

Hope you enjoy this unrehearsed and unedited (first take) video.

 

 

[ORNERY OAF]

Very informative,  been waiting for your review. I'm considering which 1911 to send them. Love my 10mms but im excited about the rowland! Thanks for the video Widder! 12+g of Longshot is hot stuff...I use it on my 10s.

[DeaconKC]

I liked the video! Thanks.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

VIDEO CORRECTION:

 

I stated that '460 Rowland' set up all 3 of my pistols.   I meant to say that both of my Kimber

1911 pistols were set up by me USING 460 Rowland parts such as their barrel, V2 Recoil Sys., recoil spring,

etc.......

 

My Rock Island Armory 1911 pistol was completely set up by '460 Rowland'.    I sent them my pistol

and they set up the whole works.......... of which I have been totally pleased.

 

Although my round count is probably under 50 rounds with the RIA, it is performing flawlessly.

 

I plan to bump up some ammo to 12.5 grains of LongShot and also some previously test loads

using Power Pistol.    I plan to chronograph those soon although I probably won't shoot them

for 'plinking' rounds..... 

 

If any of you use CFE PISTOL powder, it also works well for me in the 460 Rowland but it doesn't

give the velocity like the LongShot or Power Pistol.

 

..........Widder

 

[JD Lud]

Excellent cameraman work!  Perhaps some 260 rem vids?  

[Pat Riot]

Widder, it appeared to me that:

1. That compensator really helped with muzzle rise on the one .460 Rowland pistol compared to the other. 
2. When you fired the 10mm and the .460 the 10mm appeared to have more recoil or more muzzle rise. 
 

Thank you for that video. 

I may never own a .460 Rowland or a 10mm, but this is still good information. 

Thank you TN, for helping out. 
 

I do think you need someone to hold your cue cards for you though. 
 

 

[Widder, SASS #59054]

PatRiot,

I ask her. ^^^, but when she put on her bikini, TN started shaking so much and his heart went

into A-Fib, we had to get her outa that place..... 

 

Because I had shot the 460's a few times (both of my compensated models), recoil wasn't something

I noticed much.   But in looking at the video, I think you are correct.

But I don't recall much 'felt' recoil.   As a side note, ALL of my 1911 pistols, regardless of caliber, have the

pachmayer wrap around rubber grips.    That way, I get the same grip feeling on all of them.

 

And another thing I have experienced:

It seems the V2 Recoil sys works better with hotter stuff.   I tried it in my 10mm's and 

didn't notice much difference than the Tougher Buffer sys.    But I did notice a difference

when trying Both recoil systems in the 460 Rowlands.

 

The Tougher Buffer sys is a dandy recoil system, which I would highly recommend to anyone

using hot stuff in the big calibers (10mm,  45 Super,  460 Rowland) in the 1911 platform, when

they don't have the $$$ to get the V2 system.

I don't have any experience using it in the plastic, striker fired pistols.

 

Hopefully, more info can be posted by others with similar and different experiences.

 

..........Widder

 

[ORNERY OAF]

Is this the one you ordered and was it drop in???? 

1911 5″ .460 Rowland Conversion

Going in a 5 in colt

[Widder, SASS #59054]

Howdy OO.

 

Sort of.... EXCEPT I got the V2 Recoil Damper system.

 

And yes, mine was drop-in and worked great in both Kimber 1911's.

 

..........Widder

 

[Pat Riot]

8 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:

PatRiot,

I ask her. ^^^, but when she put on her bikini, TN started shaking so much and his heart went

into A-Fib, we had to get her outa that place..... 

Well, you don’t want to lose a good cameraman. Though you could have cooled him down with a nanner split from his favorite place  

 

Thanks for explaining your set ups. I do understand about felt recoil versus the appearance of recoil like with the 10mm. My grandson wouldn’t shoot my Ruger New Vaquero with some spicy loads because he said the recoil looked harsh. I told him it wasn’t bad. Then he showed me the video he took and visually the recoil looked a lot more powerful than what it felt like. I convinced him to try it anyway and he thought it was “pretty cool”…his words. 

[Dirty Dan Dawkins]

13 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Widder, it appeared to me that:

1. That compensator really helped with muzzle rise on the one .460 Rowland pistol compared to the other. 
2. When you fired the 10mm and the .460 the 10mm appeared to have more recoil or more muzzle rise. 
 

Thank you for that video. 

I may never own a .460 Rowland or a 10mm, but this is still good information. 

Thank you TN, for helping out. 
 

I do think you need someone to hold your cue cards for you though. 
 

 

She’s got better legs and a better smile than Widder. Cant speak for the rest of her with that cue card in the way, but I bet it’s all better than Widder’s as well.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

DDD,

She's got more money than me also.  

 

Speaking of money, I went to the Bank the other day to make a withdrawal.

I only wanted about $100 from my account.

About 30 minutes later, the Teller brought me my money and I ask...."What took so long?"

 

She said..... "We had to move TN Williams money out of the way before we could get to yours".

 

Hey, true story.   Ya just can't make this stuff up.

 

..........Widder

 

[bgavin]

As an amateur viewer, I noticed the 10mm had a lot more hand-rise in the recoil.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

Howdy Bgavin.

 

On the 10mm recoil, I didn't notice much, if any, difference in their recoil, but the video does speak for

itself.

 

One thing I notice that was not on camera:  the effect of the bullet on the big dirt mound I was shooting

into about 30 ft. away.

 

The 10mm was kicking up some dirt, as expected.   But the Rowland was pulverizing rocks and throwning

dirt up A LOT more effective.    I wish the camera had gotten that effect.

 

Just my opinion, because each of us handle recoil differently, I didn't notice much difference in the

recoil.    BUT, a big part of that was because I only fired 5 rounds in this video on the 10mm.

 

If I were to shoot 50 rounds from each pistol, my guess is that the .460 would start to wear me out

shooting one handed more than the 10mm.

 

And remember, both the RIA and the TRP are 6", BULL barrel pistols.   They are as similar as I could

make em..... EXCEPT the RIA uses the V2 damper recoil system and the 10mm uses the Tougher Buffer

system with the 24# primarily spring and a 20# 'buffer' spring.   Both are flat springs.

 

..........Widder