TUCO SASS #46748 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I scored 8# of 231 I have load data for 45acp. Like to use it on 105grs 38. Anyone have a load? Thanks TUCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 These are from Lyman so I imagine you can find a starting place from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Thornton Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Tuco, I use 231 and Titegroup. I actually like 231 more as it has a slower burn rate and not as snappy as Titegroup. 105 gr TCFP 4.2 grains 231 Tight crimp Anything less then 4 grains and I struggled with temperature sensitivity (231 does not like the cold). Hence those real light loads you saw me and my brother shooting the last coupe of years. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I used to load 3.8 in a 38sp brass, WSP, 125gr bullet. I loved 231, flowed like water in both my 550's or SDB's. Don't forget as you look for load data that W-231 and HP38 are the same powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 4.0-4.2 gn with firm roll crimp OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruth Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I use 231 exclusively and am surprised at the charges being given here. I assume you're looking for 105 lead loads? I use 158 SWC with 3.1 gr which is the minimum called out from hodgdon. Their website doesn't have a 231/HP-38 load for 105 anything, not to say some reloading manuals don't though. *Edit: after looking at the hodgon website the charges do increase for the 125gr load. I thought it would have been the opposite honestly, lighter bullet and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Quote I thought it would have been the opposite, lighter bullet and all. Light bullets need more weight of a slower powder like 231 than heavy bullets do, since at our low chamber pressures, the light bullets don't have enough inertia to build up pressure and burn powder well. 231 is a great powder in .38 special for a 158 grain load. It's just OK in a 105 grain load, and incomplete combustion of powder may be why Hodgdon didn't publish a load for it. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I’ve never heard of 231 being referred to as a slow burning powder, it’s just the opposite. I’ve used 231 in 9mm, 38 special, 38 super, 40 S&W, 45 acp , and 45 Colt for over 40 years!! I’ve used others but if I had to choose 1 powder it would be 231!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Didn't say it was a SLOW powder. Compared to the powders used for pistol caliber cartridges, however, it's slower burning than most of the ones commonly used in cowboy shooting. There's 28 faster pistol and shotgun powders listed on the current Hodgdon powder burn rate chart. And, if I had only one powder to choose, I'd have to figure out which cartridge and type of shooting was most important to me. Right now, I am using more Red Dot (and Red) than any other powder. And second on my purchasing list is WST. Currently, if one tries to find a powder that is really useful, there's a million or so folks also trying to buy it. Fortunately, there is no reason to try to use one powder only when there are almost a hundred canister powders made for all sorts of cartridges. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUCO SASS #46748 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 Thanks to all for your input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 said: I’ve never heard of 231 being referred to as a slow burning powder, it’s just the opposite. I’ve used 231 in 9mm, 38 special, 38 super, 40 S&W, 45 acp , and 45 Colt for over 40 years!! I’ve used others but if I had to choose 1 powder it would be 231!! 231 is only a couple notches faster, than Unique. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 231 has always been my go to pistol powder for snapper loads. However, low pressure insures that you will have unburned powder at low loading density. Using mag primers can help but hasn't solved the problem for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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