stef75 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Wondering how the weight, balance and handling compares between a Uberti 1873 lever action in 44-40( or 44mag) and 357 magnum, both with 24" octagonal barrels? Might seem like a strange question but I have handled a 357 in such configuration which was all I could find and did not find it too long or heavy. Would the 44 be essentially the same between the hands?
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Empty it would be a little lighter, bigger hole = less steel. Loaded it would depend on bullet weight. Probably a trade off.
evil dogooder Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 The 44 is a little lighter but you wouldn't notice it unless you held them both right next to each other
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, stef75 said: Wondering how the weight, balance and handling compares between a Uberti 1873 lever action in 44-40( or 44mag) and 357 magnum, both with 24" octagonal barrels? Might seem like a strange question but I have handled a 357 in such configuration which was all I could find and did not find it too long or heavy. Would the 44 be essentially the same between the hands? Handling it and shooting it in a match are two entirely different things particularly when it comes to barrel length. On average, folks will find the 24" barrel to be a real PITA. Phantom
stef75 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Empty it would be a little lighter, bigger hole = less steel. Loaded it would depend on bullet weight. Probably a trade off. Exact same profile barrel then, good.
Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Measuring the wall thickness of my 357 and 44 Uberti 73’s, they are the same. That implies that the 44 is slightly heavier.
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Snake-eye, SASS#45097 said: Measuring the wall thickness of my 357 and 44 Uberti 73’s, they are the same. That implies that the 44 is slightly heavier. Are you saying the outside diameter of a 357 barrel and a 44 barrel are different? I find that hard to believe.
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Are you saying the outside diameter of a 357 barrel and a 44 barrel are different? I find that hard to believe. Me too.
Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Don’t mean to start a ruckus here. The following are dimensions on MY Uberti 73’s both from EMF. Both 20” octagonal barrels. 44 spl. outside flat to flat at the muzzle. .781” 357. outside flat to flat at the muzzle. .743” 44 spl. wall thickness at the muzzle. .194 357. wall thickness at the muzzle. .184 measured at the grove inside the barrel to the outside flat all measured with a caliper Draw your own conclusions.
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Snake-eye, SASS#45097 said: Don’t mean to start a ruckus here. The following are dimensions on MY Uberti 73’s both from EMF. Both 20” octagonal barrels. 44 spl. outside flat to flat at the muzzle. .781” 357. outside flat to flat at the muzzle. .743” 44 spl. wall thickness at the muzzle. .194 357. wall thickness at the muzzle. .184 measured at the grove inside the barrel to the outside flat all measured with a caliper Draw your own conclusions. Very surprised.
Marshal Hangtree Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 I'm very surprised as well. Usually the barrels come from the same blanks, then the bore and rifling are drawn. I've never heard (except for flintlock and percussion rifles) of barrels having their own unique outer dimensions based on caliber.
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Well if we take that .781 across flats for that .44, subtract the .430 bore dia that leaves us .351 divide by two we have .1755 wall thickness. .743 minus the .357 bore dia =.386 divide x 2 = .193 wall thickness.
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 said: Well if we take that .781 across flats for that .44, subtract the .430 bore dia that leaves us .351 divide by two we have .1755 wall thickness. .743 minus the .357 bore dia =.386 divide x 2 = .193 wall thickness. Well I guess we'll have to draw our own conclusions
stef75 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Posted July 28, 2020 To throw another spanner in the works, anyone know if the winchester/miroku 1873 are same profile as uberti?
Yusta B. Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 In the heat of battle - I doubt you'll notice any difference.
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